Hemingway Butte - Man Down Act II
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Go for help Rin Tin Tin, I mean Georgie! So it's really true, stuff happens? I hope you're OK, and I hope this dropsy, or taking a nap on the trail isn't contagious. So, did you hit some soft stuff, and the front end just washed out on you? I'm sorry to see you go down, but I guess the only way to avoid that completely is to stay home in bed, and that's not really an option. I hope you feel better soon.
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On Monday, my friend Larry and I rode this area. It was a cool light wind day. We were out on our first shake down ride with our, new to us, TW200's. We have been riding dirt bikes for many years and are both in our late 60's. These TW's are our surrender to the aging process.
We concluded that a few improvements could be made to make our TW's more trail worthy:
1. The TW's could stand to be geared lower for the type riding we enjoy.(55 tooth rear sprocket)
2. The tires are a real comprimise, When going up a step trail and we ran into a bit of mud the back tire turned into a slick and lost all traction.
3. A Stearn/Coleman seat cover would help the comfort of the ride. We found some at the local Walmart.
On a side note; yesterday, a National Potitician from back east stopped in Boise and made a statement that is just scary for us outdoor kids. His opinion was that all this waste-land that is just good for flying over out here should be turned over to the States and or sold to private enterprise. I choose to live here because of the dirt biking, hunting, fishing and camping and most all of these activities I do on Public land. So please, you politicions, don't screw it up.
Happy Trails All
Ron in Boise
We concluded that a few improvements could be made to make our TW's more trail worthy:
1. The TW's could stand to be geared lower for the type riding we enjoy.(55 tooth rear sprocket)
2. The tires are a real comprimise, When going up a step trail and we ran into a bit of mud the back tire turned into a slick and lost all traction.
3. A Stearn/Coleman seat cover would help the comfort of the ride. We found some at the local Walmart.
On a side note; yesterday, a National Potitician from back east stopped in Boise and made a statement that is just scary for us outdoor kids. His opinion was that all this waste-land that is just good for flying over out here should be turned over to the States and or sold to private enterprise. I choose to live here because of the dirt biking, hunting, fishing and camping and most all of these activities I do on Public land. So please, you politicions, don't screw it up.
Happy Trails All
Ron in Boise
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GEEEEZZZ you guys, you're making TW adventure ridding look 'life threatening' (
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). It is odd how stuff like that can come from right field with little to no warning. Good to hear your ok Admiral. Hope your mend is a quick one Xdac.
A number of years ago, I sold my Honda XR250 to a co-worker. I really liked the bike for putting along on the trails. Nice suspension and plenty of power for me. The morning of my rides, I would go out in my jammies and slippers, kick the bike to life and let it warm up while my eggs cooked. The guy I sold it to went to kick it over in his work boots so he could load it onto a trailer. Seems for what ever reason, the engine kicked back and sheared what ever foot bone connect to his ankle. He needed surgery to pin a number of bones back in place. Go figure, and so many times I was silly enough to start the rig in my slippers without incident.
I had been using a nice sturdy pair of work boots in the past. It was a forum member that showed some nice pictures of his foot after a fall (I think it was a foot, the color was odd though) that got me to change . I could not see myself in a pair of MX boots, so I got myself a pair of Icon Field Armor 3403. Now after a ride all I need to deal with are blisters (
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). Hopefully some recent heat-gun treatment will take care of that. Take care Friends and report back. Gerry
A number of years ago, I sold my Honda XR250 to a co-worker. I really liked the bike for putting along on the trails. Nice suspension and plenty of power for me. The morning of my rides, I would go out in my jammies and slippers, kick the bike to life and let it warm up while my eggs cooked. The guy I sold it to went to kick it over in his work boots so he could load it onto a trailer. Seems for what ever reason, the engine kicked back and sheared what ever foot bone connect to his ankle. He needed surgery to pin a number of bones back in place. Go figure, and so many times I was silly enough to start the rig in my slippers without incident.
I had been using a nice sturdy pair of work boots in the past. It was a forum member that showed some nice pictures of his foot after a fall (I think it was a foot, the color was odd though) that got me to change . I could not see myself in a pair of MX boots, so I got myself a pair of Icon Field Armor 3403. Now after a ride all I need to deal with are blisters (
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Admiral...
I've fallen behind on the news here while my TW has been in "hibernation" most of the winter. I had it out on the street for a couple of days when spring made a nice, but all too brief appearance, but have not done any trail riding. I see my stalwart friend, Admiral however has been riding off and on most of the winter and now this news of a crash? (Which at this reading was over a month ago). Horrors! Nice to know you weren't hurt badly. Reminds me too much of my "adventure" on our first ride.
I see you're added a shield and also built a hitch carrier. You have had a busy winter. We'll need to get caught up. I'll be interested to hear about any new "farkles" you've added and some of that new riding gear you've aquired too.
Today I had news that a photography buddy of mine bought himself a '94 TW, so perhaps we may have another to add to the Idaho riding "club."
"Talk" to ya soon...
Truelight
I've fallen behind on the news here while my TW has been in "hibernation" most of the winter. I had it out on the street for a couple of days when spring made a nice, but all too brief appearance, but have not done any trail riding. I see my stalwart friend, Admiral however has been riding off and on most of the winter and now this news of a crash? (Which at this reading was over a month ago). Horrors! Nice to know you weren't hurt badly. Reminds me too much of my "adventure" on our first ride.
I see you're added a shield and also built a hitch carrier. You have had a busy winter. We'll need to get caught up. I'll be interested to hear about any new "farkles" you've added and some of that new riding gear you've aquired too.
Today I had news that a photography buddy of mine bought himself a '94 TW, so perhaps we may have another to add to the Idaho riding "club."
"Talk" to ya soon...
Truelight
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Rick,
Good to hear from you. I was hoping you had a chance to get your TW out while it was nice. March 9 I went for a ride out in the boondocks by Adrian, OR and it was beautiful weather. Something like 65F that day. Even had to take off my sweatshirt under my riding jacket. Adrian ride wasn't nearly as "technical" as this here Hemingway Butte ride.
After I got untangled and realized I wasn't hurt, I did think of that first ride we had. Fortunately, mine didn't turn out as bad as yours. But I was worried as I was stuck under the TW for a while.
Yes, we should set up one of our TVTW200 club meetings. You know, where we are the only one's that show up. If we get one setup soon and it's on one of my work days, I'll just call in sick. Cough cough! That way we will have a lot more time to tell lies and such. Giggle. Hopefully your buddy could come. I've also seen a couple of new Treasure Valley TW owners posting to the forum. It would be nice to meet folks before a ride. Kinda weird meeting all clandestine and stuff in the middle of a Home Depot parking lot, like the CIA does!
Anyway, hope to hear from you soon. Take care.
Kris
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Are your new boots one of these two models? Which? The higher or lower version? (or perhaps neither of these?) -
Icon Boots
Icon Boots
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@Truelight - No those aren't the ones I got. Mine are Fly Racing Maverik ATV Boots. Like the ones you listed, these are shorter than regular off-road motorcycle boots. Apparently you are able to walk in these better than regular m/c boots. They have lug tread on the bottom and more flex. Mine aren't completely broken in yet and they still feel like I'm walking with Frankenstein legs. But they worked well when I was wearing them riding!
@Peruano - If my toes were broke, I sure got lucky. Could have been worse. At the time of impact I felt a moderate sting, but didn't feel any pain after that. Funny thing was, I noticed the dark color when I was taking a shower (I wear glasses) and thought it was dirt. After drying off, put the glasses on and that's when I saw the bruise and knew exactly when I got it.
Oh, and asprin, you got that right, but I have to take it after almost every ride due to my oldness
Have a good one and take care Tom.
Kris
@Peruano - If my toes were broke, I sure got lucky. Could have been worse. At the time of impact I felt a moderate sting, but didn't feel any pain after that. Funny thing was, I noticed the dark color when I was taking a shower (I wear glasses) and thought it was dirt. After drying off, put the glasses on and that's when I saw the bruise and knew exactly when I got it.
Oh, and asprin, you got that right, but I have to take it after almost every ride due to my oldness
Have a good one and take care Tom.
Kris
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Given my experience on our first ride and then reading of your several experiences with foot injuries, I'm starting to think a pair of riding boots may be in my future. I like the look of the Icon Field Armor line that was mentioned here and the Fly Racing boots you mentioned look good too. I'd like something that isn't a full MX type boot and hopefully something that allows one to walk a bit. I'd also like to keep the price down under $100 if that's doable. I've also given consideration to a used pair if they were in decent shape. I'm watching around to see what I come across. I'm inclined to think you are a real believer in something more than hiking or Army boots now, huh?
After I wrote this I see the Fly Racing Maverick boots you mentioned are $89.99 right now, new at Motorcycle Superstore - Fly Racing Boots --- I'm tempted...
After I wrote this I see the Fly Racing Maverick boots you mentioned are $89.99 right now, new at Motorcycle Superstore - Fly Racing Boots --- I'm tempted...
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OK guys, inquiring minds (especially ones who are not steeped in MC lore) want to know. What are the characteristics of MC rding boots that are distinct from hiking boots. I'm going to guess, 1. smoother sole so the boot does not catch on stuff as you are skating around corners. 2. Higher top to provide more support to the tibia-fibula. and 3. More razamajazz in case you are observed by someone with 600 cc or more. What else. I have a pair of very high Danner boots that have a bit of a rough sole but not one that scares me about riding on the bike. I don't always ride with them but I do if I'm doing rough stuff, and I always have a boot over my ankle on the bike (I like to protect the 3 screws and one large plate that I carry there from a bicycle accident). Tell us more if you can please. Tom
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What induced me Tom, was the two recent mishaps and one sustained a couple of years ago by a former forum member. Seems there are lots of possible things can happen to your feet while riding but the one that has gotten most folks seems to be a result of the bike falling on their foot when they crash. I have a nice, sturdy and well broken-in pair of Carolina work boots that are high and comfortable for hiking. I think they provide great ankle support, but the 'supple shell' would do little to support the TW should it fall on my foot/ankle, which seems to happen. My new Icon Field Armor boots are of a conservative design as motorcross boots go, but the robust shell would likely help support the TW should I find myself underneath. Gerry
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As the saying goes... you can learn from the mistakes of others...or you can BE one of the Others. A couple of pictures can be worth 1,000 words. Here's how my leg looked after my TW decided to take a rest on it...
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One the other side, two holes were punctured in my leg from something on the bike. They were quite deep.
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2 years later, I still have the scars. Fortunately, the leg was not broken nor do I have any other lasting injury. I was wearing cheap $25 "hiking boots". I'm now shopping for something better.
As Giz says...having the TW land on your foot/ankle/leg is bad. Smacking a rock with said appendages is also bad. Admiral can vouch for that. I gotta think anything that can help prevent body parts from being smashed, bashed, or otherwise thrashed is an advantage.
One the other side, two holes were punctured in my leg from something on the bike. They were quite deep.
2 years later, I still have the scars. Fortunately, the leg was not broken nor do I have any other lasting injury. I was wearing cheap $25 "hiking boots". I'm now shopping for something better.
As Giz says...having the TW land on your foot/ankle/leg is bad. Smacking a rock with said appendages is also bad. Admiral can vouch for that. I gotta think anything that can help prevent body parts from being smashed, bashed, or otherwise thrashed is an advantage.
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