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Monday morning while you were waiting in line at best buy with your wife returning things she bought you thinking you'd like them, 3 of us tw's were sweating and getting our asses kicked on some tough single track out by wickenburg. I managed to them joining me on a rokon ride. If you don't know what a rokon is, its small weed eater powered 2wd no suspension billy goat of a bike.



Anyway, we started out the ride pretty good. Quite a few rutted out hill climbs..and if you gotta go up, you gotta come down. The downhills were just as challenging. Luckily the ruts were a little wider on this single track, so we managed to squeeze the tw's thru them lifting our feet up over them.



There was only one "stock tire"
tw on this ride running a 65 tooth sprocket- Ron and I had 70 tooth-, and he was struggling on many of the hill climbs. He had the power, but he just couldn't get any traction. He would spin out on most of the hills.Some of that could of been the operators fault too... but this is where I can see a huge benefit to running a gnarly tire such as a bighorn. Ron or I sure didn't have a problem going up the hills..id even go up some of them on one tire. I don't think I made it out of second gear for this whole stretch of an ass beating.



Half way thru the ride all 3 of us were starting to get tired..and it wasn't getting any easier,so we opted to bail out and take some side trails and explore on our own. I didn't wanna kill our guest..but he did extremely well. I don't think he even dumped the bike over..at least I didn't see it.




So after a few more accidents we had lunch at the trucks, and took off into wickenburg, did a little bit of pavement. Ronnydog needed his big kids meal fix at burgerking so we stopped there for a snack and went back to the trucks to wrap up an ass kicker of a day. We'll see if he returns




Pics:

http://xdac.smugmug.com/4x4/TWWickenburgSingleTrack/20760575_LJQK39#1647646224_SBXW3Vs



Videos..waiting on 1 more to upload. Let me know what you think of the camera spot

Some nice steep drop offs in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWyoHfbFKi4&hd=1



Single track riding, and 2 lay downs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unmEmhYkOxU&hd=1



The man, the myth and the legend( In the middle)





















Heres a nice drop off...check out his front forks.

















 

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looks like a gnarly fun ride! are those bighorn rear tires noisy on pavement?
 

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considering we were wining out our engines at 50mph...who knows lol. They do have a bit of noise to them doing 60mps down the road on the rzr but nothing like some of the jeep tires do..
 

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Yikes.... I know it is hard to convey 'really' rough and steep in pictures, but, I know that ride was really rough and steep. A few questions for a range of reasons. Were the Rokons ahead or behind, and why? A couple of the bikes looked like they were loaded up for an overnite, was such the case? Lastly, what was the age range and experience level of each member of the group (no names needed). I asked the last question to get (for all) a general sense of what folks are willing to try as it relates to their age and skill level.



The one shot in the video where it appears a Rokon is on a steep climb and popping up over a ledge. I noted some rear wheel spin (like with a TW). I realize on a climb the rear wheel has the hardest job. What was going on with the front wheel? Do Rokon riders weight their front ends for better pull from that wheel. Thanks for the post. You seem to be a 24/7 hard-core off-road explorer. Take care. Gerry
 

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Is this a new re-fueling technique? What octane does one use? I am unaware of this method!




That was an awesome video with very technical riding. You all seemed to do a good job.

I don't ride with body armor, but if I ever ride down there, I'll look like a Star Wars Storm Trooper

with all the body armor I'd be wearing. Yikes, rocks everywhere!



Thanks for sharing.
 

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I think its safe to say all 3 of us twers like to carry a whole spare parts bike on the back of our bikes. I my self have my t-bag with my tool kit, spare tube, fix a flat, big zip ties...and a few other small things. I carry a sammich and a few drinks and a snack for the trail. A wind breaker and a jacket. I do agree we carried too much shit for this ride but its too easy for something simple to happen out there and end up being stuck. I want to ride with only a phillips screw driver and a bottle of mtdew but i know the time that i something as simple as a chain master link will leave me stranded.



The rokons were ahead of us..i spaced my self out big time since there was a few older rokons that were 2 stroke. Talk about a headache!



If it was on the yellow rokon and the rider had a red shirt, his front wheel drive wasn't working that day so that's probably why you saw the wheel spin. You really don't need to load much weight up top on the little guys but there is a rack there if need be.



I always seem to be the youngest of the riders...im only 22. The guy on the yellow rokon turned 70 a few days ago. Id say the average age is mid 40's-60s. Bunch of flippin old farts if you ask me. But find me someone my age who enjoys this rocky stuff rather than 5th gear pinned down a sandy wash showing off and drinking beer. Im sure ronnydog has quite a bit of years of experience. Most of the rokon guys i have been riding quads on nasty trails for the last 6 years. I am probably the least experienced out of the with less than a year dirtbike riding experience.
 

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Is this a new re-fueling technique? What octane does one use? I am unaware of this method!




That was an awesome video with very technical riding. You all seemed to do a good job.

I don't ride with body armor, but if I ever ride down there, I'll look like a Star Wars Storm Trooper

with all the body armor I'd be wearing. Yikes, rocks everywhere!



Thanks for sharing.
I have my ninja turtle suit on and knee/shin guards under my pants..but i know when i fall over, i can jump right back up and not be too sore the next day.

 

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Neat video. Loved the drop-off at 2:04 in the first video.



Regarding the mount, IMO, there's too much front tire and front fender in it. I'm sensitive to such things, but when the bars are swinging back and forth, it somewhat makes me feel dizzy. End critical mount review (you asked)




Thanks for taking the time to share that.



...and I'd wear that armor too.
 

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Wow, that is some great pictures and video!!! Thanks for taking the time to share with us. Looks like you showed Ronnydog a good time on some awesome trails! Old Farts? I resemble that remark!
I can see where the steep gearing and ATV tires would help out on those hillclimbs! I wish I could find some singletrack like that around here. It's quite a credit to the TW to stay with Rokons in that kind of terrain, and yes I recognize it takes some skill on the part of the rider as well. Keep up the good work!
 

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Was that in the Vulture Peak area?
 

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Sweet ride and AWESOME report with pics and vids... I watched them all and had my own knuckles turn white a couple of times! <grin>
 

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Was that in the Vulture Peak area?
No, vulture mine is on the opposite side of moristown. We were east of there.



Thanks for the comments. The videos seem rougher than it really was lol.



Cmon guys and tell me what i can improve on the camera mount..too much tire?
 

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Cmon guys and tell me what i can improve on the camera mount..too much tire?


Try a handlebar type mount on the side of the dash/headlight cowling. Maybe above the dash. With the wide angle lens, perhaps it would still show part of the front of the TW (tire/fender).



Also try mounting the camera directly above the fender instead of off to the side.



I really like what you've done so far with your video's, just giving you a couple other idea's. Truthfully, I forget all about the tire/fender with my focus in front of the TW. However, were it currently is located, it does block some of the other side.
 

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He looks awful skeert...out there...ahead of YOU...just sayin'...



Wheel shots are too much of a good thing. I suggest you buy 6 more GoPros and place them strategically all over the bike, spend countless hours editing them together into Hollywood productions then sell the GoPros to ME for 10 cents on the dollar once you burn out on that.




What a nice ride.
 

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He looks awful skeert...out there...ahead of YOU...just sayin'...



Wheel shots are too much of a good thing. I suggest you buy 6 more GoPros and place them strategically all over the bike, spend countless hours editing them together into Hollywood productions then sell the GoPros to ME for 10 cents on the dollar once you burn out on that.




What a nice ride.




First off thanks to Xdac for putting this together and driving 2 hours when you have some great riding around your place! Your pictures are very well done and I know the time you spent on the trail to get them... thanks. Great to meet you and ride with you.



We the 3 TWers and them the 4 Rokoners went for a tough ride as the Rokon led by Harold who is 71 proceeded to take us on a single track built for a two wheel drive bikes or a Javelina! I think Harold is tougher than a Javelina and his friends said he prides himself on riding all day without stopping and when he gets back to camp he wants to go out that night and ride all night in the dark! We did peel of the trail or long ditch as I call it after staring at the ground in front of me for hours so I would not end up down the canyon or stuck to a cactus. Thank god for a long swing arm,

a 26x9x14 tires. One of the Rokons went with us and ended up flipping rear tire first over a steep rocky drop off on his head with the bike on top of him, knocked out and Xdac and I trying to get the bike off of his head. He ended up with a broken molar and very lucky to be in one piece. After getting him and the broken Rokon back to the trucks we found some fun trails to finish the day and a happy meal
Looking forward to the next ride.





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Looks like you guys had a blast. Great video and pictures. Thanks for sharing! I'm OK with the single camera up front, but I really like Lizrdbrths idea of using six cameras. You could probably get the Matrix effect with that setup.



Check this TW video I found on YouTube that has the camera point to the rear, which worked pretty nice for what he was doing. YouTube Link
 

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Monday morning while you were waiting in line at best buy with your wife returning things she bought you thinking you'd like them, 3 of us tw's were sweating and getting our asses kicked on some tough single track out by wickenburg.



I didn't wanna kill our guest..but he did extremely well...Ronnydog needed his big kids meal fix at burger king




True Adventurer Award.



I stated the below in a post to B-Dub, and the exact same thing goes to you. I will also say I enjoy your writing as well. I like your wit and humor which compliments your photo's. Keep the adventure riding posts coming young man, I love 'em.







Mrgizmow gives the missing link award for those that contribute a maintenance/performance/technical related post which usually inspires and helps other forum members.



I'm trying to copy that intent, but more in the riding adventure category (Off-Road or Street), which inspires and entertains others. I'm pretty certain your trail adventures have inspired others, as I know they have inspired me.



I sincerely hope you continue to contribute, as I really appreciate your efforts. Thanks
 

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Amazing beautiful country. Thanks for posting.
 
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