Thanks, just giving my thoughts on the subject. What I mean about the grip is that when standing, I use my legs to grip the bike. Over rough ground it's important to be able to control body movements without placing unwanted input into the bars. It also helps you to be able to keep a lighter grip thus avoiding fatigue. With the short seat/peg relationship on the TW, when standing, the seat is lower than on most "normal" sized bikes so there's not a great place for ones knees to "bite" for a good grip. I tend to grip in the seat tank junction area a lot while riding off-road. The shape of the seat works for this because near the tank it's more narrow, and it flairs out further back. This flair of the seat gives your legs something to stabilize against in the rearward direction. But, with the Clarke tank being so slick, and having such little flair toward the front, there's just not much for your legs to grip or gain stability against in the forward direction. This just makes it more difficult, and tiring, to maintain good purchase with the legs.Beautiful post IP !! You've eloquently expressed the same feelings I have on just about every single point. I'm not experienced enough off-road to appreciate the "tank gripping" comments yet as I am merely trying at this beginner level to just 'keep the rubber side down.' I imagine I will identify with what you're saying on leg positioning perhaps this summer. Awesome!
Considering that you've done such a great job here, perhaps you can give Daniel or Chris a call at IMS: (951) 653-7720 PCT. Tell them what you say above. They're super friendly Californians.
Regarding fuel left in the tank, I've now read a number of old posts regarding the XT tanks on this forum, and one knowledgeable person stated that a small amount of fuel left in the tank is a good thing as it captures debris and impurities by design. The person further stated that most motorcycle tanks are made in such manner. Interesting.
Lastly, one final question. How would you compare the Clarke XT225 4.1 tank to the XT350 4.0 tank? Which one has a cleaner fit? If IMS does not come through with a definitive answer, I will be heading in that direction. Thank you for all your work here!!
As far as calling the guys at IMS, I doubt anything I'd have to say would influence their decisions one way or the other, and I would guess that if they're serious about this tank they're likely already following this thread in order to gauge potential marketability. Otherwise, feel free to forward my comments if you like.
Like others, I don't want a tank that requires mods to my seat or side panels to fit. I still have the stock tank and when it comes time to replace this bike I'll put it back to stock and keep my accessories for the next.
I can't comment on the non-TW tanks on a TW. I have the Clarke TW tank on my TW, and the Clarke XT tank on my XT. Quite some time ago I did read some posts on the subject of using the XT tanks on a TW, but if I remember correctly, they weren't a straight bolt on install so didn't suit my wants/needs.
As far as aesthetics go, that's not really a "thing" for me. For a bike of this sort I'm much more of a function over form guy. I think that a well setup bike, with a purposeful look, defines what looks "good" on a bike of this type anyway.
As far a color goes, I feel the same. I have the "natural" opaque tanks on both bikes and absolutely LOVE them in that I have a VERY accurate "fuel gauge" that leaves on doubt as to the status of my fuel level at any time on a ride.
I already have a tank on my TW obviously. But, if IMS offers an opaque tank of adequate size, that requires no permanent mods to the bike, for a reasonable price, this one will go on the Bay in a heartbeat. My XT has a 250 mile range, and I'd love it if my TW could do the same...