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Does any one know if this is a OEM filter? It is fine metal screen, maybe brass. It was in my '06 when I got it with a couple thousand miles on it.
I've been cleaning it every thousand miles or so when I change oil. Have 11,000+ miles on it and filter is still solid. The filters I've seen pictured on the forum
aren't pleated. Just wondering what I've got?
Thanks and God bless.....

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Does any one know if this is a OEM filter? It is fine metal screen, maybe brass. It was in my '06 when I got it with a couple thousand miles on it.
I've been cleaning it every thousand miles or so when I change oil. Have 11,000+ miles on it and filter is still solid. The filters I've seen pictured on the forum
aren't pleated. Just wondering what I've got?
Thanks and God bless.....

MAC
Yes that is the factory installed filter that came on my 2013.


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Thanks for the good intel:cool:. I should probably get one for a backup.


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MAC, the one that you have seen in some pictures....brass...but NOT pleated...is also a factory installed oil filter. That is what I took OUT of my 2014 TW today...a non-pleated brass filter.
My 2014 had a factory pleated one. Maybe they just got a bargain deal on some cheap non-pleated?
The first replacement filter I bought (pleated)...my dog ate!
 

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I hope this isn't too much of a hijack of the thread...but...
How often should the filter be changed out? I mean, I've been throwing them away whenever I change the oil. If I can reuse them, it would be great.
Do I just clean it from the inside out with carb cleaner?
How do I know when it's "used up?"
 

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The last "stock" filter I purchased was pleated brass (Yamaha 5H0-13440-09).

WIX also sells a pleated brass filter (57934) and it includes a new o-ring. And, yes it has 4 holes in the inlet end.

I guess I just like to buy oil filters because a brass filter should last forever if it doesn't rip.

Caution: Some non- "4 hole" filters have been sold by dealers. It can kill a TW motor. How a dealer can let that happen amazes me.
 

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Apparently both of my TW's (2005 & 2015) have the "garbage" filter. Both are the non-pleated brass screen filters.

Looks like both have been used as OEM!
 

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Caution: Some non- "4 hole" filters have been sold by dealers. It can kill a TW motor. How a dealer can let that happen amazes me.
Amazing isn't it! I've heard that 50% of dealers graduated in the bottom half of their "dealership" classes!;) Some dealers are good, it just seems like most we have around here are real bone heads!
 

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I hope this isn't too much of a hijack of the thread...but...
How often should the filter be changed out? I mean, I've been throwing them away whenever I change the oil. If I can reuse them, it would be great.
Do I just clean it from the inside out with carb cleaner?
How do I know when it's "used up?"

Apparently mine has over 11k on it and is still going strong. As fishguy mentioned a rip or even the tiniest hole would be unacceptable. Also if it seems crushed in any way I would replace it. The pleated design seems structurally stronger as well as having a much greater filtering area. I always blow mine out from the inside with WD40 or contact cleaner. I ran out of both and used the last of a can of ether that was on the shelf. Had to take a short break after that:p. I think carb cleaner would be excessive and is hazardous to your heath:eek:. A couple of my pleats are slightly bent but the filter is not compromised as far as i can see. If it aint broke.............

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P.S. fishguy, thanks for the parts numbers!!!!!!
 

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..... How often should the filter be changed out? I mean, I've been throwing them away whenever I change the oil. ..
I haven't changed my original OEM unpleated filter yet at 12,500 miles, I just clean it with Kerosene and blow it out with compressed air at about 1,000 mile intervals; that's twice for each oil change. Save your money. The only reason to replace the OEM filter is if it tears or if the rubber sealing rings at each end get brittle....I might get a new one at 20,000 miles or ten years.
 

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I appreciate the informative advice. I've changed the oil 5 times now and thrown away the nice, brass, pleated filter each time.
No more will I waste such a precious resource
 

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CAUTION! Off topic:

It is funny how our culture has taught us to use something once and throw it away. I call it the "toilet paper principle".

I guarantee that if you are ever caught in camp without toilet paper and the closest is a couple days away, you will learn how to use a wash cloth. And, reuse it.

TW's are like that. I have seen then being used by irrigating crews on western ranches. Ridden hard. Put away wet. And, the repairs that the farm workers make! Don't get me started -- but, what I am saying is they are more like tractors than motorcycles. Maintenance is simple and doesn't, necessarily, require a lot of replacement parts.
 

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How often should the filter be changed out?
I guess I just like to buy oil filters because a brass filter should last forever if it doesn't rip.
Apparently mine has over 11k on it and is still going strong. The pleated design ................having a much greater filtering area.
I haven't changed my original OEM unpleated filter yet at 12,500 miles,
My pleated oil filter hasn't seen the light of day (or been cleaned) in over 25,000 miles. When I was cleaning it every oil change there was so little debris on it, deep in the groove of the pleat, it simply wasn't worth the effort nor did it make any difference in filtering efficiency once done.

To the guys that clean them all the time, how much stuff is there on it when you do clean it?

For me, when the o-ring starts to leak and I have to remove the cover to replace it I will check out the oil filter. Until then, the heck with it!!!! (BTW, I do change the oil every 1,500 miles -- Mobil 1 motorcycle oil -- 1,500 miles is when it starts to lose that new oil look.)
 

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My pleated oil filter hasn't seen the light of day (or been cleaned) in over 25,000 miles.

To the guys that clean them all the time, how much stuff is there on it when you do clean it?

good question! If I was able to collect it I suppose I could weigh it with my powder scale. Maybe 10 grains more or less (probably way less), but that's just a guess.

In reality we are probably cleaning it every oil change because it seems like a good thing?

My reason is the stuff kinda piles up on one end and the bigger stuff could be holding some smaller stuff which might get through when I land a big jump or hit some big whoops or flip it doing power wheelies.

Then again maybe I'll start cleaning it every second or third oil change or in a few years.

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good question! If I was able to collect it I suppose I could weigh it with my powder scale. Maybe 10 grains more or less (probably way less), but that's just a guess.

In reality we are probably cleaning it every oil change because it seems like a good thing?

My reason is the stuff kinda piles up on one end and the bigger stuff could be holding some smaller stuff which might get through when I land a big jump or hit some big whoops or flip it doing power wheelies.

Then again maybe I'll start cleaning it every second or third oil change or in a few years.

God Bless



MAC
I agree, it does seem like the "right" thing to do and if you feel UNCOMFORTABLE NOT cleaning it, then by all means clean it. Honestly, the first time I decided not to clean the filter I felt so guilty I changed my mind and did clean it. When I saw the little bit of nothing dirt I vowed not to give in again and so far so good though but all this talk about filters has me wondering what is on it now. I can picture in my mind it almost being totally plugged.........but I am sure it is no where near that. Well, pretty sure......
 

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I agree, it does seem like the "right" thing to do and if you feel UNCOMFORTABLE NOT cleaning it, then by all means clean it. Honestly, the first time I decided not to clean the filter I felt so guilty I changed my mind and did clean it. When I saw the little bit of nothing dirt I vowed not to give in again and so far so good though but all this talk about filters has me wondering what is on it now. I can picture in my mind it almost being totally plugged.........but I am sure it is no where near that. Well, pretty sure......
You better pull it and check. I'm curious now. Report back please. :D
 

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CAUTION! Off topic:

It is funny how our culture has taught us to use something once and throw it away. I call it the "toilet paper principle
Call me crazy, but i replace mine at every oil change [ the manual says do it every other oil change]. Those things are like none dollars a piece, so i can't be bothered to worry about things like toilet paper mentalities. (the tw would probably run just fine if you just shove some toilet paper in there though :p )
 

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I guarantee that if you are ever caught in camp without toilet paper and the closest is a couple days away, you will learn how to use a wash cloth. And, reuse it.
Dude - Way to much detail .......
 
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