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I've wanted to get one for a while now. Being in Salida Colorado, I have great trails just outside my door.

I found a used 2012 TW200 with 300 miles for sale close by, but it has a few issues. I went to look at it a found a broken tail light, fixed with tape, a bent back rim, and the thing would not run unless the chock was all the way out and then it idled really fast. I was not interested in buying one not running right, so the seller said he'd work on it to get it running better. He called back and said it was just bad gas in the tank and after riding it everyday for the last week it is running right now. Is this possible, or is something else wrong?

Also, the bent back rim worries me. Seem like it would take a pretty hard hit to dent it with such a big tire. The seller is a rental place, so even though it only has 300 miles, it may have really been abused.

What do you guys think? He is a asking $3990, but said please make an offer.

Thanks for any advice, as I'm really new to motorcycles.

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I would be concerned about the bent back rim. Sounds like it may have been in an accident. Double check the condition of the frame for cracks / bends.

In terms of the price I bought my 08, with around 1000 miles on it for far less, also came with a few accessories.

And from what I gather some members here have managed to find brand new 2012 or later models at that that price from dealers who had them marked down.
 

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i agree...from a rental place it was either it was in an accident or it was ridden with the tire pressure far too low and took a big hit...got any pictures of the rim?...i would pass at that price...just having to buy parts to have to lace up a new rim would make me pass as well...a new TW goes for msrp $4590 ($600 difference)...that's not a good deal for the condition...look at an older one...same technology, cheaper and possibly better riding history

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That seems way high given that some dealerships are advertising new 2013 models for advertised $3,999 plus title/registration/sales tax but no setup or freight charges.

Also looking (in no particular hurry) for a TW and I have somewhat of a similar question about prices. As background I have a ‘06 XT225 with low miles that I bought a year ago from a Craigslist seller. He was asking $3,000 but dropped immediately to $2,200 when I mentioned that NADA from dealer in excellent condition was <$2,200 at that time. I gave that bike to my son and my old DR350 to my new son in law so I am now bike-less. I really like the xt225 but want to give the TW a try. There are a lot of used TWs for sale with very low mileage, a 8-12 year old bike with less than 3,500 miles isn’t rare and <1000 miles come up often. But the asking prices are usually really high, close to new prices. Completed Ebay sales show that the high reserve bikes typically go unsold, completed sales that I have seen for ‘01-’05 seem to go for <$2,200 and usually less than $2,000. You never know how much a Craigslist or other seller settled for.

So, if some owners of used TWs don’t mind saying, how much was the asking price, how much did you buy it for and for what year, mileage and condition? I don’t like dickering and don’t want the dreaded “low baller” accusation from sellers that I do contact, so I usually just avoid contacting sellers that are listing the high prices . You can’t tell which sellers are just hopeful and which are delusional so this info would be helpful in addressing the seller who thinks your offer is some ridiculous low ball.
 

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I purchased a really clean 1997 with 3700 miles, no dents, no scratches, no marks, always stored inside in June of this year for 1500.00
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He was asking for 1750.00 That green stuff really talks loud once in a while.
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Thanks,

I'll give that approach a try on a couple TWs later this week if they are still available. If it doesn't work others will come up for sale, they always do.
 

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There is no shortage of TWs out there because they have been around since 1987. Patience is a virtue and if you can wait I am sure you can find a very nice one with low miles and well cared for.
I would personally avoid the 1987 model year and search hard for a 1988-2000. The 1987 had known electrical issues and after 2000 they lost the kick start, gained the front disc brake and changed the carb.
My advice will be to spend a few bucks more for a very clean, unmolested, low mile bike between 1988 and 2000. This is just an opinion but I think they were made better in those years and they are all pretty much the exact same bike.

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I purchased a really clean 1997 with 3700 miles, no dents, no scratches, no marks, always stored inside in June of this year for 1500.00
Mel
Same here Mel. I purchased a drop dead gorgeous 1991 with 675 miles for $1400 this summer. It needed some carb work and the inside of the tank cleaned but is pristine otherwise. They are out there and I would pay a premium for another nice one in a heart beat.

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Rental? Bent rim? Run away. Run away, fast! Find a clean used one if you can't afford new.

Low mile used TW's are, actually, fairly easy to find. They are more common around agricultural areas, so Saliad, CO, should be perfect. However, most ag-use bikes are trashed.

On the other hand, most recreational owners are older (I'm 65) and, if they are like me, they clean and tinker with their bikes constantly. I only put 300 miles on mine this year. Sometimes more, but, its a 1995 and just turned 3,200.

So, find some old guy that wants to sell his '90 to 2000 and buy it. You can probably get a better deal if you act interested in the TW culture and "chat the guy up" a bit.

Good luck and check back in when you find another one.
 

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I just think it is appropiate that I should have 2 Tw's because I might be working one one, and want to ride. Actually, I bought the second one because I like to go some places in the Sierra's and the desert that I should'nt go by myself. I consider it a "buddie" bike because I can usually find someone to go with me, and for the 1500 I gave for it, I don't have to stop doing some of the things I like to do.
 

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There is no shortage of TWs out there because they have been around since 1987. Patience is a virtue and if you can wait I am sure you can find a very nice one with low miles and well cared for.
I would personally avoid the 1987 model year and search hard for a 1988-2000. The 1987 had known electrical issues and after 2000 they lost the kick start, gained the front disc brake and changed the carb.
My advice will be to spend a few bucks more for a very clean, unmolested, low mile bike between 1988 and 2000. This is just an opinion but I think they were made better in those years and they are all pretty much the exact same bike.

GaryL

You guys are a wealth of knowlege.

So no noticeable difference between front disc vs drum?

The carb change after 2000 wasn't an improvement?

I heard bigger stator output 2001+, is it not noticeable/headlight output essentially the same?

I have read about the base gasket leak in later pre '10 models.

I plan no mods other than heated grips.

There are a few '06 around and a late '90s model. I like the idea of button plus kick start but a bike this small should bump start pretty easy in a pinch, even the DR350 bump started pretty easily.

This time of year I can be very patient.

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I just think it is appropiate that I should have 2 Tw's because I might be working one one, and want to ride. Actually, I bought the second one because I like to go some places in the Sierra's and the desert that I should'nt go by myself. I consider it a "buddie" bike because I can usually find someone to go with me, and for the 1500 I gave for it, I don't have to stop doing some of the things I like to do.
I am almost the same Mel. Want to set the real nice 91 up for when I am just tooling around on back roads and light trails with street tires. Looking for a second one that I can set up for serious hard rides off in the boonies and not care if I lay her down for a nap or two. Kind of like a nice Girly bike and a bad ass bike.

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You guys are a wealth of knowlege.

So no noticeable difference between front disc vs drum?

The carb change after 2000 wasn't an improvement?

I heard bigger stator output 2001+, is it not noticeable/headlight output essentially the same?

I have read about the base gasket leak in later pre '10 models.

I plan no mods other than heated grips.

There are a few '06 around and a late '90s model. I like the idea of button plus kick start but a bike this small should bump start pretty easy in a pinch, even the DR350 bump started pretty easily.

This time of year I can be very patient.

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I never rode one with the front disc brake but from what I have read here most guys would trade them in for the kick start. TWs have notoriously poor brakes as far as i can tell.

I think the carbs are different but about the same as far as being finiky. A carb from a new bike does not drop right in to an older bike and vice versa. The mounting boots and intake and engine side sizes are different. It can be done but is not worth the expense from what I have been told. Guys with 2001 and newer bikes/carbs have just as many issues as those with the older style.

I don't know about the electrics other than the 1987 models being real problematic.

If I had the choice and both the late 90s and 2006 bikes were in equal shape with the same miles I would try hard to get the late 90s one for a little less than the 2006. The battery can take a dump in a heart beat and the kick will get you going. You can buy the kick kit for around $200 and install it in an afternoon. I have the kit right on my shelf just in the event I do find a nice 2001 or newer. Bump starting when you are going up hill and can't get turned around could be pretty tough!

I also think the base gasket leak issue has a lot to do with poor machining fit between the jug and base or a crappy base gasket. Some of the guys here who really know these bikes through the years say the workmanship, welds and basic fit and finish was better on the earlier bikes.

Good luck with your search.

GaryL
 
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