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Just kind of looking for opinions....and killing time until spring (I had no idea how long winter was until I bought a motorcycle last fall....)
Forgive me for kind of rambling out loud...

So, I'm going to be using the TW mainly for fishing, and some camping (minimal gear, hammock, etc) I've been looking for a sturdy tail box of some kind, but coming up empty. Believe it or not, after going to both WalMarts, Home Depot, Canadian Tire, and so on...I still can't find a frikkin Action Packer, or reasonably sturdy alternative. Until now. Picked up a 'Pelican-esque' box at Princess Auto this weekend...it's going to work out perfectly....after I mount the thing.

My TW came with the OEM Yamaha rack. The one that has that awesome 30-degree upturn at the back of it, making it impossible to mount anything flat. For reference, a piece of two-by is the right thickness to plunk on the rack, and be pretty much level with the upturn. I'd rather not use 2x4's....

I can already hear you typing "Buy a Cyclerack!" Yes, that would be the thing to do..but it's not. The Cyclerack is around $280 shipped, then there's tax, possible duty.....And I already have a rack, it just has that stupid upturn.
Or I could spend $100 on the 'cheap ebay rack' and swap it out, giving me a flat spot to mount the box.

Either of those options leaves me with a useless OEM rack, and to sell it would be an arm and a leg to ship it to someone...

So, what are your thoughts on taking the bend out of that OEM rack? I have no metalworking tools at my disposal, so would have to pay someone to cut/weld...which isn't out of the question....
Or, I could take the rack off, turn it upside down, and then take a hammer to the SOB and take the bend out of it that way.
Anyone flattened one out before?

I'm looking at it this way....I'd save $100-$280 as opposed to buying a rack to gain nothing but a flat place to sit a box. And due to location and shipping, selling the OEM rack wouldn't make much sense, so it would likely just end up in the junk pile.

I had the whole tail section apart yesterday, so I see the lack of meat under there, so the weight will be kept to a minimum....Windbreaker, small tool bag, a fly reel, spinning reel....
 

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You could do some "rod inside tube" modifications. Cut off the 30 degree bends with 4 cuts and find rod that fits the inside diameter and insert two sections as internal sleeves and reattach rear of OEM rack now flat. Secure with through pinning, bolts, brazing, epoxy, whatever works if you can't weld. You could even bend up an entire replacement "U" to extend rack rearwards.
Your subframe at the rear is capped by simple plastic plugs. I removed mine and inserted a "U" shape of vice bent 7/16ths (?) solid rod creating a rather strong extension used as both a grab bar and base for picking up the cantilevered load from my original homemade rack. Worked great. Once I got a Cyclerack I tied cycle rack's Rotopak mount to this same homemade grab bar for much improved no-cantelever rigidity.
 

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Just kind of looking for opinions....and killing time until spring (I had no idea how long winter was until I bought a motorcycle last fall....)
Forgive me for kind of rambling out loud...

So, I'm going to be using the TW mainly for fishing, and some camping (minimal gear, hammock, etc) I've been looking for a sturdy tail box of some kind, but coming up empty. Believe it or not, after going to both WalMarts, Home Depot, Canadian Tire, and so on...I still can't find a frikkin Action Packer, or reasonably sturdy alternative. Until now. Picked up a 'Pelican-esque' box at Princess Auto this weekend...it's going to work out perfectly....after I mount the thing.

My TW came with the OEM Yamaha rack. The one that has that awesome 30-degree upturn at the back of it, making it impossible to mount anything flat. For reference, a piece of two-by is the right thickness to plunk on the rack, and be pretty much level with the upturn. I'd rather not use 2x4's....

I can already hear you typing "Buy a Cyclerack!" Yes, that would be the thing to do..but it's not. The Cyclerack is around $280 shipped, then there's tax, possible duty.....And I already have a rack, it just has that stupid upturn.
Or I could spend $100 on the 'cheap ebay rack' and swap it out, giving me a flat spot to mount the box.

Either of those options leaves me with a useless OEM rack, and to sell it would be an arm and a leg to ship it to someone...

So, what are your thoughts on taking the bend out of that OEM rack? I have no metalworking tools at my disposal, so would have to pay someone to cut/weld...which isn't out of the question....
Or, I could take the rack off, turn it upside down, and then take a hammer to the SOB and take the bend out of it that way.
Anyone flattened one out before?

I'm looking at it this way....I'd save $100-$280 as opposed to buying a rack to gain nothing but a flat place to sit a box. And due to location and shipping, selling the OEM rack wouldn't make much sense, so it would likely just end up in the junk pile.

I had the whole tail section apart yesterday, so I see the lack of meat under there, so the weight will be kept to a minimum....Windbreaker, small tool bag, a fly reel, spinning reel....
PM me and we can hammer out a cheap alternative for you to get a flat rack just like the one you have. Only the one I have is heavier duty tubing than yours.



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Just kind of looking for opinions....and killing time until spring (I had no idea how long winter was until I bought a motorcycle last fall....)
Forgive me for kind of rambling out loud...

So, I'm going to be using the TW mainly for fishing, and some camping (minimal gear, hammock, etc) I've been looking for a sturdy tail box of some kind, but coming up empty. Believe it or not, after going to both WalMarts, Home Depot, Canadian Tire, and so on...I still can't find a frikkin Action Packer, or reasonably sturdy alternative. Until now. Picked up a 'Pelican-esque' box at Princess Auto this weekend...it's going to work out perfectly....after I mount the thing.

My TW came with the OEM Yamaha rack. The one that has that awesome 30-degree upturn at the back of it, making it impossible to mount anything flat. For reference, a piece of two-by is the right thickness to plunk on the rack, and be pretty much level with the upturn. I'd rather not use 2x4's....

I can already hear you typing "Buy a Cyclerack!" Yes, that would be the thing to do..but it's not. The Cyclerack is around $280 shipped, then there's tax, possible duty.....And I already have a rack, it just has that stupid upturn.
Or I could spend $100 on the 'cheap ebay rack' and swap it out, giving me a flat spot to mount the box.

Either of those options leaves me with a useless OEM rack, and to sell it would be an arm and a leg to ship it to someone...

So, what are your thoughts on taking the bend out of that OEM rack? I have no metalworking tools at my disposal, so would have to pay someone to cut/weld...which isn't out of the question....
Or, I could take the rack off, turn it upside down, and then take a hammer to the SOB and take the bend out of it that way.
Anyone flattened one out before?

I'm looking at it this way....I'd save $100-$280 as opposed to buying a rack to gain nothing but a flat place to sit a box. And due to location and shipping, selling the OEM rack wouldn't make much sense, so it would likely just end up in the junk pile.

I had the whole tail section apart yesterday, so I see the lack of meat under there, so the weight will be kept to a minimum....Windbreaker, small tool bag, a fly reel, spinning reel....
Can you post a pic of your oem rack?


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Oh, sorry. I now see the rack has several more bends than a CycleRack to be removed. Maybe get Dryden T-Dub to help hammer it flat, perhaps a hydraulic press, or park Mel's D9 on top:) P1290075.JPG

The part number for the rack can be obtained with a simple internet search. No need to wait for someone else to do the research and then post answer here.
 

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This would be the factory rack, Deepseadan. https://www.amazon.ca/Yamaha-ABA-2JY51-00-00-Luggage-Rack-TW200/dp/B005IGORBO Only exception is, well, it's upside down. :p
I actually find a LOT of pictures of that rack upside down online.
If you're looking at getting one....one thing I'd mention is that it really doesn't fit like you would expect a factory part to fit. Even with it back as far as it can possibly be mounted, the rack still digs into the bottom rear lip of the seat. When you take my seat off you can see 2 notches where it's indented into the seat. It didn't hurt the cover yet, but over time, that friction point would be the first spot to fail.
I see where some have taken the cover off the back edge, cut away a little plastic from the pan, and re-stapled the cover....

@ Fred: Well, New York is a little too far to go to flatten out a rack....but DT's got a flat rack that may come this way, depending on the shipping. :)
 

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Actually funny you posted this as I'm getting ready to do just this to my oem rack. its weak we know that. I plan on adding braces/tubing to areas like the man rack show, and beefing up the under seat area. And plan to flatten as you said. I just bought a mig welder so having fun playing and this will be another fun project.
 

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Just kind of looking for opinions

For reference, a piece of two-by is the right thickness to plunk on the rack, and be pretty much level with the upturn. I'd rather not use 2x4's....

Instead of wood 2x4, maybe you could use aluminum square tubing or something similar. Cut some small blocks to attach case>tube>rack.



My modus operandi (M.O) would be to try and use a torch to soften the metal and bend it like you are thinking. Perhaps I would use a hammer to help bend the metal but I would only suggest this by placing something like your 2x4 on the metal and then strike the 2x4 with the hammer thus not roughing up the metal with the hammer.

Good luck.
 
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With all the great inventors, modifiers, tinkerers, welders on here I am surprised no one has unbolted that back section under the seat to the back of the bike and just strengthened that and the frame it hooks to. It looks like this would be simple and wouldn't add much weight. A smaller lighter rack could bolt to it possibly with very good strength. I know most love the cycle rack but it looks huge and heavy.
 

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Do you need one?
Yeah I was thinking on getting one so I could carry my msr fuel bottle on the rack instead of my backpack. It looks small and simple. But when I saw the amazon prime prime price of $125 I changed my mind. More than I can spend right now.


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If you need to fill space to make a flat spot, I recommend 2 cutting boards (one 1/4" thick or more and the other just sheet plastic) and some closed-cell foam (boards of the solid pink or blue stuff used to insulate houses).

Before you sneer at using the foam, I assure you it is much stronger than you might think. Shape it to fit the curve of the OEM rack, place the thin cutting board between the foam and your box, and put the thicker board under the rack. Drill holes where needed and bolt it all together. Because you will be compressing the foam between two solid surfaces, there will be little to no friction. Your Pelican box will be held tight. So for very little money and very little weight gain, you'll have a nice flat surface to attach the perfect cargo box.
 
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