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I've had my T-dub for about a year, and have had plenty of enjoyable rides on it. After putting it up in October for the winter, I had a chance on a recent, mild January day I took it out for a short ride.

For some reason I found myself unhappy with the bumpy ride on a gravel road slamming my back, or the screaming engine on the short highway run. Anyway, it has me wondering if it is time for this old boy to look at a bigger bike—like a KLR—for greater comfort and ease of running down the highway to get to the less-traveled rural roads in my area.

I know I could upgrade the POS original seat, but short of that, I don't know.

Any thoughts form those of you who own bigger dual purpose bikes vs. the TW?


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Seat concepts!!!!! Can't say enough good things about my seat. I used to be only able to ride for maybe 1/2 hour. Sometimes after a long ride my tail bone hurt so bad that I couldn't ride for days.
 

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TW for the trails, Moab and dune riding. VStrom for road and FSRs - when you want to travel long distances.
 

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More bikes is never the wrong answer. Though, I don't think ever heard that KLR and comfort were synonymous. :p

Try Seat Concepts and lowering tire pressures off-road in the meantime.
 

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Dont sell the TW.....you will end up buying another one like I did. I had a DR650 that I sold the tw for. The dr is a great bike, i really regret selling it, but now for on/offroad i have a drz400s and the tw in my garage, very happy with that setup, but still missing that DR650, it was amazing on the highways and back roads, and it was manageable fun offroad, the drz is absolute blast offroad. So my vote goes for another bike.....but a seat concepts setup is not a bad choice too....either way, dont replace the tw!
 

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Listen to the guys and get the better seat. Seems it might be significantly cheaper than buying another bike especially if you like your TW.
And if the Seat Concepts does nothing for you you can sell it here, it'll get snapped up right away.

I'm a former KLR650 owner. Great bike. Those guys that ride them from Montreal to Paraguay, I don't know how they do it. One of the most horrible riding stock seats after just an hour ride, even on a smooth street or highway.
 

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Yep! If you want comfort everywhere you need at least 2 bikes. I'd probably get the DR650 over the KLR650. I think it's better off pavement and requires less mods.
 

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The Seat Concepts seat was a HUGE game changer for me! My only regret is that I did not get one sooner!! Worth every $$

As far as high RPM's on the pavement, I've never let that bother me. It's not like you can go fast enough to blow the thing up, so no worries there. If some annoying person gets too close to your ass, slow down to around 25 mph & make him ride it hard until you feel like pulling over. (Works better for the country roads I ride, may not apply in your area...)

Variety is the spice of life, so if circumstance allows for a second bike, do it! Keep the TW, like a faithful hammer at the back of the tool box, it will always be there ready to do the MANY skilled jobs for which it was created. :cool: m.
 

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How tall are you? How about a KTM 350EXC with about 3 more inched of custom seat and a big wad of cash for maintenance expenses? That way it could be orange just like Betty Boop. 2013-KTM-350EXCF2.jpg
 
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I've got a KLR that I ride if there is going to be long stretches of pavement but I REALLY like the TW's off road, trail or no trail, capability. My suggestion would be to get a bigger bike, and keep the TW also.
 

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As previously mentioned a Seat Concepts seat makes a world of difference on the TW. The high rpm's at highway speeds on the TW used to bother me but after close to 25,000 km including two 4000 plus km trips sometimes at wide open throttle for extended periods it no longer worries me. The TW works as good today as the day I bought it.
I am not sure about the KLR but I have a DR650 and it also needed a Seat Concepts seat. The oem seat was worse than the oem seat on the TW. I'm not sure what kind of off roading you do but as good as the DR is off road it doesn't compare with the TW when the going gets rough. The suspension is better on the DR as well and of course the increased power is better when highway riding.
It's kind of like comparing apples to oranges. Both bikes serve different purposes and do what they were designed for quite well although both need modifications to bring out more potential.
A good compromise between the two might be a Honda CRF250L,XT250 or a KLX250 but any one of those is still going to need a new seat.
Or if your budget allows you could keep the TW and get another larger displacement bike and have the best of both worlds.
Like mhomadness said "variety is the spice of life" and a fella really can't have too many motorcycles can he? :D
 

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How tall are you? How about a KTM 350EXC with about 3 more inched of custom seat and a big wad of cash for maintenance expenses? That way it could be orange just like Betty Boop. View attachment 75177
KTM claims it is a dual sport, but it is a dirt bike that is designed for the dirt and has some turn signals added. The guys I know who own these trailer them to the woods. They are not a good road bike.
 
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TW light and EZ to ride,
Want something bigger?
Tons of cheap Vtwin cruisers with low seats and easy to handle,
I don't like tall and heavy myself,
Keep the TW,
Find a nice 750 Vulcan or Honda shadow and cruise when not on gravel,
Lots go from the bigger heavier dual sports to the TW,
 

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Check out the nc700x for road and my CRF250L for sale if you are thinking slightly larger off road


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Seat concepts!!!!! Can't say enough good things about my seat. I used to be only able to ride for maybe 1/2 hour. Sometimes after a long ride my tail bone hurt so bad that I couldn't ride for days.
That's my story. After thirty miles I feel beat to hell.


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+1 for the dual bike setup, I use the TW200 and DR650, but if I had to have a 1 bike for what you want maybe a DRZ400 would be good, very proven engine and decent both on/offroad.
 

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+1 for the dual bike setup, I use the TW200 and DR650, but if I had to have a 1 bike for what you want maybe a DRZ400 would be good, very proven engine and decent both on/offroad.
I think you are spot on, the dr650 and tw are a super good combo. For some reason I sold my 650 off for the drz400, it's a great bike, but I really liked that 650....maybe you need all 3! Yes, I have a problem
 

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One idea that keeps going through my head regarding softening up the ride is installing a stiffer rear spring. I know it doesn't seem to make sense that a stiffer spring would soften up the the ride but on my other bikes it has. When you sit on the tw (depending on your weight) you compress the rear shock spring to a certain point. If you're heavier you compress it pretty hard and you lose all that initial shock absorbing travel. With a heavier spring you only lose a little travel and most springs are more forgiving / soft when their not compressed way down. Hard to explain but my brother in laws Ktm 500 exc is way smoother and more comfortable than mine and he installed stiffer springs.


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Just an idea but I usually run 7 lbs in my rear tire when I off-road. It helps absorb a lot of the little stuff. Also traction greatly improves.

What psi do you run?
Well, like a good boy I'm running the factory spec of 18psi. I'm a lightweight guy, about 145#.

Wow, 7 psi seems really low. I run a combo of pavement, to oil and chip, to gravel and dirt.


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