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Been looking into warmer places to relocate. like the thoughts of Las Cruces. Any info about this area would be appreciated or any other places ...need a change of scenery..Thanks in advance, moving in May selling everything but Tw, carpentry tools,some guns, selling some dont want to hall them all, clothes. Starting over at 69 yrs old and good health. BTW I like hot weather. and im in NC now.
 

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We live in perilous and unprecedented dark times in America.
How important is your liberty? How important is your own life?

If you value either, I recommend looking for a state that:
1) has outlawed/has strict limits on abortion. Why? Because euthanasia is the older brother of abortion. If they'll kill an innocent infant child, they'll certainly kill an old man they consider a burden to their state. Sorry, but at 69 this issues needs to be considered, unless you plan to be murdered by the state in your old age.
2) Has liberal gun laws, such as concealed carry without a permit, no limits on magazines, no special limits on "scary" looking rifles. Why? The only reason a state tries to limit your access to weapons is so you can't defend yourself (thus making you a slave to the state)
3) Has solid voter integrity laws, including requiring valid ID/proof of citizenship, and no/very limited mail-in voting, and limited/no use of voting machines. Why? Because Marxists have already proven their ability and willingness to overthrow elections. Without strong voter integrity laws, its only a matter of time until your state becomes a Marxist hellhole and items 1 & 2 turn against you.

Sorry - but this is no longer good ol' America - we are at war and you need to act accordingly.

My list of states to consider includes Idaho, Texas, Tennessee, Florida, and possibly Alaska (too cold for you) and Oklahoma. If Keri Lake somehow pulls out a court victory over the election that was just stolen from her in AZ, AZ has a chance of making the list also.

Truth - don't lie to yourself.

Peace out, and good luck.
 

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NM is a state I also considered but after knowing a machinist from ALB and a retired vet born and raised in NM now in AZ I see it as a downtrodden state it's something you might not see at first glance as a tourist or passer by
Taos was weird but perhaps if off grid is your thing it might be nice just seems like some strange "community" there

Arizona is hard to beat for real estate price and property taxes as well as many different climates from cook eggs on rocks to snowmobiling in Flag
 

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I am within 3 years of retirement and feel the need to move soon! I LOVE my area, but if I cannot own a weapon, an Internal Combustion car, or a damn gas cook stove it is time to go! But that is what Folks are voting for so I will deal with it!
 

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We live in perilous and unprecedented dark times in America.
How important is your liberty? How important is your own life?

If you value either, I recommend looking for a state that:
1) has outlawed/has strict limits on abortion. Why? Because euthanasia is the older brother of abortion. If they'll kill an innocent infant child, they'll certainly kill an old man they consider a burden to their state. Sorry, but at 69 this issues needs to be considered, unless you plan to be murdered by the state in your old age.
2) Has liberal gun laws, such as concealed carry without a permit, no limits on magazines, no special limits on "scary" looking rifles. Why? The only reason a state tries to limit your access to weapons is so you can't defend yourself (thus making you a slave to the state)
3) Has solid voter integrity laws, including requiring valid ID/proof of citizenship, and no/very limited mail-in voting, and limited/no use of voting machines. Why? Because Marxists have already proven their ability and willingness to overthrow elections. Without strong voter integrity laws, its only a matter of time until your state becomes a Marxist hellhole and items 1 & 2 turn against you.

Sorry - but this is no longer good ol' America - we are at war and you need to act accordingly.

My list of states to consider includes Idaho, Texas, Tennessee, Florida, and possibly Alaska (too cold for you) and Oklahoma. If Keri Lake somehow pulls out a court victory over the election that was just stolen from her in AZ, AZ has a chance of making the list also.

Truth - don't lie to yourself.

Peace out, and good luck.
Thank you very much for your input nelsonj. Im on the common sense side just as you...
 

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NM is a state I also considered but after knowing a machinist from ALB and a retired vet born and raised in NM now in AZ I see it as a downtrodden state it's something you might not see at first glance as a tourist or passer by
Taos was weird but perhaps if off grid is your thing it might be nice just seems like some strange "community" there

Arizona is hard to beat for real estate price and property taxes as well as many different climates from cook eggs on rocks to snowmobiling in Flag
Thanx for your input!
 

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Las Cruces is a liberal s##thole teaming with illegals flooding over the border. It's a dirty, hot miserable city. Arizona property prices aren't too bad depending if you want to live far from the city. Now they have a governor who's going to make laws about which personal pronouns you can use so scratch that, unless it happens to be your thing.
Cost of living is super cheap here in Catron County NM. This county is a conservative second amendment county even though the state is run by lefty crooks but it's farther from services than you may be accustomed to, like groceries and medical care.
I have friends who moved from Albuquerque to the San Antonio area and they love the mild weather, but it's super expensive.
Silver City, NM is gorgeous with a ton of outdoor recreation so that's a good place to consider. Hop onto Zillow.com and check out all the properties available! Feel free to connect with me if you would like more details about my slice of heaven.
 

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We live in perilous and unprecedented dark times in America.
How important is your liberty? How important is your own life?

If you value either, I recommend looking for a state that:
1) has outlawed/has strict limits on abortion. Why? Because euthanasia is the older brother of abortion. If they'll kill an innocent infant child, they'll certainly kill an old man they consider a burden to their state. Sorry, but at 69 this issues needs to be considered, unless you plan to be murdered by the state in your old age.
2) Has liberal gun laws, such as concealed carry without a permit, no limits on magazines, no special limits on "scary" looking rifles. Why? The only reason a state tries to limit your access to weapons is so you can't defend yourself (thus making you a slave to the state)
3) Has solid voter integrity laws, including requiring valid ID/proof of citizenship, and no/very limited mail-in voting, and limited/no use of voting machines. Why? Because Marxists have already proven their ability and willingness to overthrow elections. Without strong voter integrity laws, its only a matter of time until your state becomes a Marxist hellhole and items 1 & 2 turn against you.

Sorry - but this is no longer good ol' America - we are at war and you need to act accordingly.

My list of states to consider includes Idaho, Texas, Tennessee, Florida, and possibly Alaska (too cold for you) and Oklahoma. If Keri Lake somehow pulls out a court victory over the election that was just stolen from her in AZ, AZ has a chance of making the list also.

Truth - don't lie to yourself.

Peace out, and good luck.
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I've only passed through NM a couple times. It was kind of depressing. I'd probably need to be well off the beaten path to be happy there. Idaho was mentioned earlier but it's really expensive right now and has its own issues. Oklahoma seems okay but you may have to dodge the occasional tornado. If I were relocating, I'd give Missouri and Arkansas some serious consideration.
 

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some guns, selling some dont want to hall them all
I would just like to politely, yet firmly, suggest that you do not follow this course of action. Haul 'em, Brother!
 

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The question asked is a really slippery one. I will reframe from what I would normally say on this subject.

I will say this, as an X-Arizonan, I hope to never set foot again in that state. Point I will stress - be careful of what you wish for, it may come back and bite you square in the butt.
At 69 years old - you don't want to go to all the work, and it is a TON of work to relocate and then later severely regret it. My friend did that when he moved to an area S. of Reno NV. He's 73 and pretty much stuck in a place that has changed and not to his liking. Also, be careful what you read on all these "Greatest Places to retire or live in" articles. Most are total BS. I read and studied for a long time before I retired. I wanted to get out of Scottsdale AZ and live in the smaller town of Prescott AZ where we had a second home. 6 months is all I could take. I had to get out of there - went to back where I was born and could not believe how different it was than I had imagined over the years. 5 trips and all the different seasons to see if it was the "place".
It's a big deal to move, at your age of 69 it's a really big deal - give it a lot of thought, research, and investigation. No one can tell you the best place, so just take it all as info, to research.
Things change by the influence of who is moving in, everywhere...
Many changes and big changes are happening, and many states once considered decent, have gone to crap.
Also. warmer is not always better. You need to find a good compromise. Do not forget humidity, wind, rain, and snow as things to give consideration to. everyone has different levels of each they wish to deal with. There is NO perfect place, so compromises have to be met. Deal with a little of this or that to get this or that. That's the weather part, political views, regulations, control, and governments - that is a whole different deal.
In my opinion, the Midwestern states are the friendliest people on the planet and seem to be some of the only ones with any common sense and decent values. You have to experience it. It is like a night-and-day change from 80% of the other states
Hoping to not offend others, but that is my 2 cents on the subject.
 

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As this is a TW forum me thinks your decision making process will incorporate your TW. To that end Ya know any snow and ice covered riding surface seeks sudden and abrupt "down" time. And isn't a TW about "up" time? Each state's governing slant aside at 69 you'll figure out how to (R)esist (I) ntegrate( D)efeat (E)njoy where you're most inclined.
An appointed and anointed man once said "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God". Some may choose to substitute God for their own name Yet you've the idea.
There are many of us on this forum that load up and run the country on a seasonal basis. Sometimes on a whim, oftentimes premeditated. All while tuggin' our TW along. I'm planted now in AZ. Yet not after many years of traipsing the country via a 5th wheel trailer. We don't stay settled here the year through. There's just too much available out there.
 

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I think Black Hills is giving very good advice...

I like the four seasons so moving for warmer weather is not somehing I would even consider.....but if I did.....it would be in the United States and in the Southwest.

I do not like heat and humidity so that would rule out the Southeast and Hawaii .....that would leave California and Arizona....I have no concern about politics.....none....and I know there are outstanding outdoor recreation opportunities in both States.... plenty of TW places to ride in...

I would look for a quiet smaller town or suburb with excellent medical facilities and most of the retail opportunities and services with a low crime rate.....I would avoid areas subject to natural disasters with modern and dependable infrastructure...

If I could I would avoid income taxes. And if I could afford it, I would live near or on a shoreline......in a small house with a huge garage....

I looked it up....if your income is 70k......,after taxes, the net is about 50K ....plus property taxes and sales taxes and and and......(n) so as much as I enjoy California.....to visit.....not going to live there...
 

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Las Cruces is a liberal s##thole teaming with illegals flooding over the border. It's a dirty, hot miserable city. Arizona property prices aren't too bad depending if you want to live far from the city. Now they have a governor who's going to make laws about which personal pronouns you can use so scratch that, unless it happens to be your thing.
Cost of living is super cheap here in Catron County NM. This county is a conservative second amendment county even though the state is run by lefty crooks but it's farther from services than you may be accustomed to, like groceries and medical care.
I have friends who moved from Albuquerque to the San Antonio area and they love the mild weather, but it's super expensive.
Silver City, NM is gorgeous with a ton of outdoor recreation so that's a good place to consider. Hop onto Zillow.com and check out all the properties available! Feel free to connect with me if you would like more details about my slice of heaven.
Thanks very much snow, thats what im looking cheap ..And not a bunch of lefties. Its too easy to hurt there fradgile feelings,
 

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The question asked is a really slippery one. I will reframe from what I would normally say on this subject.

I will say this, as an X-Arizonan, I hope to never set foot again in that state. Point I will stress - be careful of what you wish for, it may come back and bite you square in the butt.
At 69 years old - you don't want to go to all the work, and it is a TON of work to relocate and then later severely regret it. My friend did that when he moved to an area S. of Reno NV. He's 73 and pretty much stuck in a place that has changed and not to his liking. Also, be careful what you read on all these "Greatest Places to retire or live in" articles. Most are total BS. I read and studied for a long time before I retired. I wanted to get out of Scottsdale AZ and live in the smaller town of Prescott AZ where we had a second home. 6 months is all I could take. I had to get out of there - went to back where I was born and could not believe how different it was than I had imagined over the years. 5 trips and all the different seasons to see if it was the "place".
It's a big deal to move, at your age of 69 it's a really big deal - give it a lot of thought, research, and investigation. No one can tell you the best place, so just take it all as info, to research.
Things change by the influence of who is moving in, everywhere...
Many changes and big changes are happening, and many states once considered decent, have gone to crap.
Also. warmer is not always better. You need to find a good compromise. Do not forget humidity, wind, rain, and snow as things to give consideration to. everyone has different levels of each they wish to deal with. There is NO perfect place, so compromises have to be met. Deal with a little of this or that to get this or that. That's the weather part, political views, regulations, control, and governments - that is a whole different deal.
In my opinion, the Midwestern states are the friendliest people on the planet and seem to be some of the only ones with any common sense and decent values. You have to experience it. It is like a night-and-day change from 80% of the other states
Hoping to not offend others, but that is my 2 cents on the subject.
Thanx for your input!
 

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Hmmmmm, I'm kinda right there with ya ! I moved to NC from someplace REALLY cold, Michigan. First couple of years NC was great, but now even these winters are colder than I like. Considering Arizona lately
Yes lived here all my life mostly, cant take cold anymore.
 

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Thanks very much snow, thats what im looking cheap ..And not a bunch of lefties. Its too easy to hurt there fradgile feelings,
Statistically, if you stay out of the metropolitan areas in the US or Canada, you avoid "a bunch of lefties". The red/blue maps of both countries illustrate this well.

Even better, turn off the news, and the babble and rhetoric ceases. Stop inviting it into your world.
 
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