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Ok its fully installed, but I dont think I have time to ride it tonight. I did take it up and down the driveway and its inconclusive. I'm thinking its a little heavy of a spring right now, but we'll see next time i ride it. There are some spots on my daily ride where my deficient shock has given me some trouble so I'll aim for them next time I'm out. Maybe I'll even make a little video
 

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Took it out for 100 miles test ride, mostly high speed but lots of bumps on city roads. This shock is definitely effective. I dont have that wallowing feeling when i hit any size bump mid turn. It still does seem a little stiff, but it definitely gives me more confidence than I had before. I took some pictures of how it sits today:















I might put up a video of parts of my ride last night too.



I'm going to see how hard it is to remove the spring from the TW shock and if that goes well then I'll pull the VTR1000 shock out and try to swap springs. The beauty of it is how the shock bolts in and unbolts just as easily as the stock setup. These bikes are quite easy to work on.
 

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My personal take on it admittedly, but I think the factory shock is too stiff. Either that or the compression damping needs to be backed off which isn't an option.



Seems a mild swingarm stretch would increase leverage and allow the factory stuff to work better. I really like the short wheelbase though.



Any info on a shock swap that will maintain close to factory ride height but is a little softer under compression?



Hope I'm not derailing your topic but you seem to have spent some time considering options.



I'm 6'2" and about 235. Maybe a high carb diet is the solution.
 

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I just swapped the TW spring onto the VTR1000 body. I can almost flat foot it now (I'm 5'8" or so). I also have the spring on the maximum preload setting and have a few notches I can back it off to. I shall report back when I have some miles on this particular setup.



















I'm new to off-road bikes, but I think what may appear as the factory spring being too stiff is really just the fact that you really dont have that much suspension travel for having an off road bike. I've seen road oriented bikes with more travel and it definitely makes it difficult trying to do anything at speed. I have a video of me on a section of sand road that has some pretty heavy woops in it and its a rough ride.



I'll look for other options, but this did appear to be the best option when I was looking at some of my cross referencing info.
 

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Took it for a a ride for about an hour last night with all kinds of roads. Gravel, Highway, Twisty...performed well and was cushy enough. I upped the tire pressure as well, so the bike was dancing under me on the gravel roads, but i had the same confidence around turns and everything as before but with the extra cushiness of the TW spring. My front might need a little attention now. I also need to balance the wheels, rough ride around 40 mph.
 

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Its been requested that I provide an update to the shock swap.



To recap I have a VTR1000 shock with the TW200 progessive spring on the shock body. I needed to modify the ends of the shock since they were at 10mm and the TW200 uses 12mm eyes. Sounds easy, and the bottom one is. A 12mm drill bit will take care of it quickly. The top one would be easy if it wasnt a hardened sleeve for the needle bearing. I had this opened up in a few minutes on a Wire EDM but I'm going to guess that most people dont have access to one of those. In the absence of that, you can pick up a 12mm Carbide drill bit. Surface wont be the best, but it would only cost you another $30 for the bit. or get a machine shop to do it. On the positive side, the top eye was the perfect width, whereas the bottom needed spacers to fit in the swingarm clevis. I made 2 aluminum spacers, but washers might work. With these few changes (Took me about 45 min to do all of the above) The shock is plug and play into the TW200. No clearancing or drilling hard to find parts.



I did end up taking the VTR1000 spring off the shock and putting the TW200 spring on the shock. The VTR1000 spring was a bit stiffer than the TW200 and I can see what people mean about the stock being too stiff.



Onto my thoughts: I love it. I spent $30 on it and the rear shock is much more responsive than what I had. That was really my goal, but here are the extra perks of the swap:

-Adjustable Preload (I have the preload less than stock, and can go up to maybe a little more than stock)

-Adjustable Damping. I played around with this at first, but i dont think I've got it exactly where i want it. I should address this

-Increased Ride Height. I was worried about my bike falling over before, but not anymore with the extra inch to 1.5"

-Cheap and easy to obtain.



I've not had an opportunity to take it off road yet, but I honestly dont have much to compare it to. High speed woops in sand on a blown out rear shock are going to be tough, especially if it was your first time off road. I have been riding it on road alot and I have tons of confidence in the suspension so I can enter bumpy turns faster than I do in my CBR600. Tire choice/inflation is the next thing to mess with.
 

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I'll just take a trip out to my wire EDM sitting in the garage and do this... Or not




Probably the highest tech tool ever utilized to work on a TW200 haha!



I can't believe how cheap some of these shocks are. Once people figure out how to repurpose them for bikes that have expensive shocks, the price will probably go up though. Therefore, I should immediately buy one ha!
 

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After seeing this post I bought one on eBay for like 30 bucks. Drilled out the regular bushing, didn't have an edm handy for the hardened one, haha, so I brought it in to the machine shop at work and they made me a new bushing for it. Going in tonight after work. Will add my thoughts on it tomorrow since ill be riding around a good amount. I'm a big guy (almost 300lb) so hoping it helps out us bigger guys. Haha
 

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Any updates on this shock?? Is there any improvement in regards to travel? I've looked for specs on the VTR suspension and haven't found anything in regards to travel.

-John

Took it for a a ride for about an hour last night with all kinds of roads. Gravel, Highway, Twisty...performed well and was cushy enough. I upped the tire pressure as well, so the bike was dancing under me on the gravel roads, but i had the same confidence around turns and everything as before but with the extra cushiness of the TW spring. My front might need a little attention now. I also need to balance the wheels, rough ride around 40 mph.
 

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Hello,

Just got my first TW200 - 1992. Within the first 10 miles of my first ride, I could tell the rear shock was not good.

I already ordered a VTR 1000 rear shock ($32 on ebay) and I will report back on how it does. I am 240lbs.

Thanks for all the info!
 

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Hello,

Just got my first TW200 - 1992. Within the first 10 miles of my first ride, I could tell the rear shock was not good.

I already ordered a VTR 1000 rear shock ($32 on ebay) and I will report back on how it does. I am 240lbs.

Thanks for all the info!
Welcome to the forum!!
 

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Welcome to the forum!!
Thanks!

Shock was delivered on Monday.

I need to drill out both shock bushings to use the factory bolt and pin. Also, I will need to find a couple spacers for the lower shock mount - easy.

Looks like it will slip right in, I'll post pics when done - probably this weekend.

Thanks!
 

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Where at in the Great White North are you?

I live there too.
 

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I am located in MN, west of the idiot zone (twin cities) :).

The 1998 VTR1000 Shock mounted up just fine. I used different bolts so I didn't have to machine the lower bushing...which is hardened.

Hope to get a test ride in this weekend - supposed to be in the 40's.
 

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I am located in MN, west of the idiot zone (twin cities) :).

The 1998 VTR1000 Shock mounted up just fine. I used different bolts so I didn't have to machine the lower bushing...which is hardened.

Hope to get a test ride in this weekend - supposed to be in the 40's.
Pictures or it didn't happen!!
 

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Did you use 10mm bolts and sleeve where they pass through the frame?
Ok to mount the shock:

Upper Shock Mount:
Shock eyelet / bushing is hardened, you cant drill through it without a fancy mill, 10mm bolt hole
TW200 frame mounting points are 12mm - OEM upper shock bolt is 12mm.
I used an 10mm bolt, but added bushings to the frame, like these: http://www.amazon.com/Length-Silver...1-3&keywords=12mm+od,+10mm+ID+flanged+bushing

Lower Shock Mount:
Shock eyelet / bushing is 10mm. It is a non hardened metal, so you can easily drill it out to 12mm.
TW200 swing arm mounting points are 12mm. I used the factory lower shock mounting pin and installed hard rubber bushings to compensate for the shock eyelet / bushing width difference.
 
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