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Hey Guys,

I've been reading the forum for a while and finally got my new bike. I know, I know, not another a newb with chain thread :mad: Sorry !

I just purchased leftover new 2013 model TW200 with 2 Miles on it from the dealer. At 75 miles I did the first oil change and got a lot of metal shavings off the filter. Also installed my cyclerack. :D
I plan to change the oil again at 300 miles, then 600.

Right now I have 150 miles on her and the chain is already very loose.

After reading the advice here in the forum regarding chains, I ordered a D.I.D Pro-Street X-Ring 428VX 122 Link chain. It should be delivered by next week.

I wanted to have longevity and minimal maintenance, less adjusting, lubing etc. I plan to keep the stock 14/50 ratio.

My question is, " Should I go ahead and swap out the chains, and put my new X-Ring Chain on the stock sprockets now ? "

A few of my buddies that ride motorcycles, say to just run the stock setup until it is used up/worn, then replace chain & sprockets. BUT, I don't want to be adjusting the chain all the time & I want longevity. Im also not ready to pull the side cover, etc off my new bike.

Are aftermarket sprockets better quality than the OEM one that it comes with ? Are the stock sprockets junk like the stock chain ? The stock sprockets don't look like they have any serious wear yet (only 150 miles on them)

Please give me some advise, because I've been wanting to ride it soo bad, but have been waiting until my new chain arrives as to not wear out the sprockets.

Thanks in advance,

MidnightRider
 

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Some will say change it now.

With regular maintenance my stock chain lasted 8,000 miles plus.

At least wait until you have completed the engine run-in.

Adjusting the chain is easier than changing it.

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Welcome to the forum!! :D

Go ahead and change the chain now. You won't hurt the sprockets. You also don't have to take the cover off, just take off the master link on the old one and attach the new one and pull the old one off, feeding the new one on and around the front sprocket!! Where are you from? You may have members/riders in your area.
 

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Welcome to the forum MidnightRider!

Here's my advice. If your chain is very loose, I would snug it up so you don't run the risk of the chain coming off the sprockets which could be dangerous and can also cause a lot of damage. Then go ride your bike!

The stock sprockets are very good quality and you will not damage them by riding your bike for another week until your new chain gets in, or another week, or another week, etc. The important thing is - you have a new bike, go ride it and have some fun. Maybe change your chain at your next oil change, or maybe the one after that. Your sprockets will be fine.

I am just glad you didn't ask what oil you should use ;).

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We bought my wife a new bike with a chain with only 300 miles on it.. I went ahead and ordered a new X-ring chain and put it on.. She now has 3,000 miles on it without a SINGLE ADJUSTMENT.. Well worth the $$$$$$.. I know they are great chains.. I have a trump with 21,000 miles with just two very small adjustments.. OMM.
 

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We bought my wife a new bike with a chain with only 300 miles on it.. I went ahead and ordered a new X-ring chain and put it on.. She now has 3,000 miles on it without a SINGLE ADJUSTMENT.. Well worth the $$$$$$.. I know they are great chains.. I have a trump with 21,000 miles with just two very small adjustments.. OMM.
I also went over 3,000 miles before my 1st adjustment with an O-ring chain. When your new chain comes in, change it.
 

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I also went over 3,000 miles before my 1st adjustment with an O-ring chain. When your new chain comes in, change it.
This. I also have more than 3k miles on my X ring without an adjustment. I tried to snug it up one notch on the snails last week and it was too tight.
 

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I've been thinking of upgrading my chain. I've got about 2.1k miles on my bike. But adjusting it is no big deal to me takes like 5 minutes. May just wait til factory setup is worn out.
 

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i would change it now if it was me. If not you will be adjusting it every 100 miles miles and you might get 4,000-5,000 miles out of it. My oring has about 8,000 miles on it and ive adjusted once maybe twice in that time.
 

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....My question is, " Should I go ahead and swap out the chains, and put my new X-Ring Chain on the stock sprockets now ? "

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If not adjusting your chain every 200 miles is more important to you than the $70 it costs, yes, go ahead and change it to an O-ring now. I changed out mine at around 1,000 miles and kept the original sprockets for another 10,000 miles. No problem at all. You still need to clean and lube it regularly, though, or the O-rings will dry out and crack, lessening the life. I'm at 12,200 miles, still on the X-ring chain I put on 11,000 miles ago. Never adjusted it since.:D
 

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First up — welcome to the madhouse MidnightRider …….

Second up — we rarely get such questions on here (and for good reason) — ‘cos we know it’s gonna get “messy” ……..

Sooner or later — we get some clown on here (in this case in a Panda suit), who will proclaim —“Nay, Evangelise” — over some gimmick or another he’s “supposedly” got on his bike (we can’t tell for the oil), which together with a skateboard wheel (again, obscured by oil), that allows his bike of unknown miles and age, to run a chain indefinitely providing it’s tightened, maintained — (presumably at 20 mile intervals) — and running in what I can only describe as an “oil bath”.

Take my advice — switch your new chain over when it arrives — (it’s so much easier) …………

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I'm not so much confused by the chain question as I am to the oil changes. I'm not being a smart a$$, but I couldn't imagine changing the oil that many times.
 

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I'm not so much confused by the chain question as I am to the oil changes. I'm not being a smart a$$, but I couldn't imagine changing the oil that many times.

He states that he had lots of metal in the oil filter. TW's like having their oil changed. IMO, 4 or 5 oil changes up to 2,000 miles is one of the best things you could ever do!! It's only a quart....:D
 

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With 4000 miles on the 2014 which I purchased new back in March 2014....I probably have made about a dozen adjustments on the chain...about every 300 or so miles....I am no expert, needless to say, but am planning on getting a O chain this off season, and even with 4000 miles, I see no reason to change the stock sprocket...adjusting the chain on occasion is not that big a deal it takes 5 minutes.....I will report back how much better the O chain is when I get some miles on it...{which will be after the southern Indiana 'Hockey Puck Ride'}:p

Don't overthink the Stock Chain and Stock Front Tire things....just enjoy the damn bike....and there is no reason to change the oil every 15 miles...and if your bike came with the quality metal oil filter...DON'T CHANGE IT! Use it for as long as it looks good...just clean it every oil change, it is a quality item.:protest:
 
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Thanks everyone for the welcome, and for the the information & advice.

I'm going to install my new x-ring chain this weekend. In my opinion, it's worth the $ 65.00 to not have to adjust the chain every few hundred miles, even if it only takes a few minutes.

Also going to install some Rox Risers & Tusk Handguards. Then it's time to go get this thing dirty. :)

Thanks Again !

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With 4000 miles on the 2014 which I purchased new back in March 2014....I probably have made about a dozen adjustments on the chain...about every 300 or so miles....I am no expert, needless to say, but am planning on getting a O chain this off season, and even with 4000 miles, I see no reason to change the stock sprocket...adjusting the chain on occasion is not that big a deal it takes 5 minutes.....I will report back how much better the O chain is when I get some miles on it...{which will be after the southern Indiana 'Hockey Puck Ride'}:p

Don't overthink the Stock Chain and Stock Front Tire things....just enjoy the damn bike....and there is no reason to change the oil every 15 miles...and if your bike came with the quality metal oil filter...DON'T CHANGE IT! Use it for as long as it looks good...just clean it every oil change, it is a quality item.:protest:
I knew one day it would happen. Hoot giving mechanical advice.
 

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Ahh chain stuff, makes me miss QWERTY.
 
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Most of what I post on this forum I learned from Qwerty or Lzrdbrth.....could it be re-incarnation? :icon_cyclops:
 

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Ahh chain stuff, makes me miss QWERTY.
QWERTY used to get so pissed off when I talked about my non-o-ring chain that I clean and oil every 300 to 400 miles and after every dirt ride and now has nearly 30,000 miles on it along the sprockets which I installed new with the chain. I do have a new o-ring chain and sprockets sitting on the shelf but honestly, I am thinking of just going with another non-o-ring chain and new sprockets. The care is labor intensive but the results are excellent.

My second TW does have an o-ring chain. I haven't developed a technique for taking care of it that I like very much. Right now at around 600 to 800 miles the chain and the sprockets start to look very dirty so I take the chain off and clean everything and spray the chain with WD-40 and put it all back together. To me it is as much work though I don't do it as often.

O-rings chains invite neglect due to their ability to tolerate neglect much better than a non-o-ring chain.
 
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