The OHV permit separate from the course?Looks like it is only free if you are a Utah resident. "Non-residents Visitors" have to purchase a non-resident OHV permit...
The OHV permit separate from the course?
Under 18 requires the course for $35. (why it's free for over 18 and not for under 18 I can not guess)
On top of that is a separate OHV permit too?
I read it that you just need the card, no permit for street legal vehicles."Free and once in a life time."
How long before it costs money and is renewable every year?
Face it guys, the "good old days" ended (or will end) Feb. 1, 2023, at least regarding riding OHV in Utah sans a permit. As for plated vehicles being exempt (if they really are), its only a temporary oversight.
I agree and think this is a prelude to enforcing judgement. It's impossible to argue the issue in front of a court judge when they know what was in the training. As far as ignorance of needing a permit at all, my guess is that signage is going to be heavy at any staging area, and that will be too bad because part of the charm is the lack of signs along the highway and parking areas.I read it that you just need the card, no permit for street legal vehicles.
There are just too many operators with high powered machines tearing up the trails and going wherever they want. Common sense seems to be lacking in the world today and replace by self entitlement so my guess is that the operator card requirement is an attempt to educate users and eliminate the excuse “I didn’t know …”
Can state laws be enforced on federal land?
No, they do not. State and local laws do not apply to federally managed lands. The U.S. Constitution actually states this.
The basis for this declaration is the “Property Clause” found in Article IV, Section 3, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution.
The Property Clause states that only the U.S. Congress shall issue laws affecting lands and properties belonging the United States. State and local laws have no authority over federally managed lands.
BLM law enforcement officers enforce federal laws and do not have authority to enforce state laws
I am not sure where all the State land is around Moab, but when I was in the KOFA in Arizona I talked with a ranger and asked why I would need the Arizona OHV sticker to ride in the KOFA as all the trails are designated as Highways. His response was that you had to cross BLM land where you need the OHV sticker to ride. I also pointed out that I trailered my motorcycles in as we were conversing next to my campsite.I agree and think this is a prelude to enforcing judgement. It's impossible to argue the issue in front of a court judge when they know what was in the training. As far as ignorance of needing a permit at all, my guess is that signage is going to be heavy at any staging area, and that will be too bad because part of the charm is the lack of signs along the highway and parking areas.
But I thought that Moab areas are federal land, BLM specifically. How can a state collect fees as well as make licensing requirements on public federal lands? If I were ever to ride there without their education permit, that would be my argument.
Not to mention that BLM probably has the exclusive right to collect fees for accessing it's federal lands. I wonder how they feel about this? The Federal Land Recreation Enhancement Act (REA) authorizes the BLM to collect fees for recreational use in areas meeting certain criteria. Maybe this is why they can't collect a fee for adults but can for kids?
I also found this:
State and local laws can apply to federally managed lands only if the agency managing those lands chooses to let them apply. The only agency..www.boondockersbible.com
Since it's BLM land, I looked up this: