Another thread got me thinking about pre-2000 TW's vs a NEW one. It occurred to me that at $4,250.00 for a new 2014, one could buy/fix-up two pre-2000's for about the same price. In fact, that's what I did. I got a "killer" deal on a 1998 but even if it had needed an upper engine rebuild, I would still be way under $4,000.00 for two very good bikes. That's doing the work myself. The math doesn't work if you need to use a shop.