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Hey guys, I've never rode my tdub in sand before. I have the Bridgestone street tires on it. Do you think it will do good at the Oregon dunes in Florence? This will be my first time over there and my quad is acting up a lot right now, so I thought I'd just take my tdub. Any suggestions? Thanks guys
 

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T-dubs are great on packed sand (like out on the beach, not far from the water) but lack the horse power for loose soft sand.

You can air down and get around but in my experience, it's not much fun.

I'm very familiar with Florence but have only been there in Suzuki 4x4's and quads. However, I have had my t-dub on sandy trails in Moab, Utah and in Oregon and it was a challenge. It's always a relief to get out of the sand. So being in a HUGE sand dune area like Florence would be daunting.



** FYI: I'm 210lbs and ride an older '89 TW, so maybe other folks with newer bikes and less body weight have had better experiences in sand?
 

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I have ridden mine with stock tires at Winchester, near florence. The first time was a disaster because I didn't let any air out of the tires. The second time was really fun, I damn near let all of the air out of my tires. I was able to ride just about anywhere. Keep in mind that I weigh 270, It hauled my ass around.
 

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That's cool Chip! Airing down is a huge factor. I'd like to try the deep sand again and deflate down to 5-8psi and see how it works. We were running about 12-14psi in Moab for the slickrock and the deep sandy trails were a pain in the rear!
 

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Not sure what type of sand you got in Oregon, but our sand here (Turks & Caicos Islands) is wayyyyy too soft, almost like powder. First time I got stuck, let air out and got stuck, almost deflated the tires and got stuck. So I gave up riding on the beach. With a few more horse power and the sand more corse it would be possible.
 

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Those tires will not work period. The stock front knobby will not work either. The rear stock knobby works just fine. Get yourself an aggressive front tire (either DOT or non-DOT approved).



Momentum is your friend. First gear is pretty useless. My 1990 hauled my 250 lb. frame up some dunes just fine as long as I had the RPMs up and hit them with some speed.



Oregon has some big dunes. Try it out. At least when you fall it doesn't hurt too bad.



Make sure you know whats on the other side of a dune before you blast up it because it may be a razorback or worse yet, a cliff.



If you don't have an aggressive front tire all you'll do is fall over due to your front tire washing out (you'll still fall over even with a knobby, but not too often!) and you won't have any fun because all you'll do is fight the bike.



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To be perfectly honest, no dualsport motorcycle is any fun in sand at the slow-down-and-smell-the-roses speeds I like to ride. It takes work to keep a small displacement bike planing across sand. 1st is too slow to keep on top. Wound out in 2nd gear works (25-35mph). The engine lacks the power to pull 3rd.
 

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My only experience with sand was with Darnold in Moab. First was too low and I kept digging in and getting stuck. Second was too high and the bike wanted to bog down. It was a fight to keep the bike upright, it was tiring and sucked.
 

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My father in-law let me ride his Honda CRF450R while riding in the dunes and I let him ride my TW. Riding his bike in the sand was easy. The rear tire had traction and it did not spin like the TW does. It seemed to dig in and just go. We got back to the truck and he asked me, "How do you ride this thing? Its hard to ride in the sand!" I don't know any better. All I have is the TW.



The TW will go, just keep up your momentum. It gets squirrely, but practice makes perfect. First time I rode in the sand I was all over the place and I fought the bike. After forcing myself to ride in it, it gets a little better. Don't be afraid to fall....because you will.
 

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I ride a lot of sand! It is scary at first but if you keep it in second and around 20-25 it's doable. Don't fight the bike! It will always win. Lightly hold the bars and let the front end wander. It will swing left and right but it will straighten out. I fell about 10 times with the stock front tire and bought a shinko sr244 and gave away the stocker. It really makes a huge difference with wash-outs.
 

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I was amazed at how worthless the bike is on drifted sand. Had to power-walk it to get across to the wet sand North of Florence a couple hours. But I also dislike seeing sand on my chain and around the front axle. GB
 
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