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A Date Which Will Live in Infamy.
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last photo caption: American and Japanese veterans pour bourbon whiskey into the hallowed waters of Pearl Harbor as a way to observe and celebrate the continued peace and reconciliation between the two nations during a Blackened Canteen ceremony as part of the Pearl Harbor Day 74th Commemoration Anniversary Dec. 6, 2015, at the USS Arizona Memorial, Hawaii. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Christopher Hubenthal)

as we gather and enjoy our japanese bikes on this forum, unthinkable 75 yrs ago today, slandering and locking up 120,000 american citizens, seemingly thinkable again today.
as those that remember first hand fade away, let the rest of us never forget the lessons from then and today.

i asked my grandfather, knowing he had joined the navy in 1937, and whose first ship was the uss california:
"hey gramps, where were you on dec 7th?"
"drunk off my ass wandering time square."
he was in nyc on new ship detail, waiting for the new battleship BB-55 the USS North Carolina.
"some new york debutantes had thrown a party for us in a fancy ball room."
"wasn't much party for awhile after that one."
"double time getting that ship ready."

the USS North Carolina was the first new battlewagon in the US fleet since WWI and the first new ship into pearl in june of 1942. he was in the pacific for the rest of his 21 yr naval career, including BB-55 being torpedoed in sept 1942. a chain of events which that sent him to san francisco where he met a fine lady... and i was born 27 yrs later.

thank you to my grandfather and all the vets that have served and continue to serve and protect our country.
 

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I'm so glad someone posted about Pearl before me.
Yes, something we should never forget.
 

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My parents were married on Saturday, December 6th, 1941. My father enlisted in the Marines before the end of the year.
He served as a weapons instructor, and then in the Pacific... the islands, the Phillipines, and in China.
 

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Went to the Arizona Memorial in April 1970 while on R&R from my time in Vietnam....that was less than 30 years after the Attack....and here we are at 75 years....damn, time does fly!

April 1970 at Waikiki Beach

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The Arizona Memorial Today:

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My grandfather Eddie B. Daugherty was a chief boatsun mate on the destroyer Helm DD-388 at Pearl Harbor. Eddie B was aka "Redi Red" a wiry indominable red headed Irish man from Texas. The Helm was underway when the attack happened and was able to steam out to sea. One of the few boats able do so. They were bombed on both sides and strafed but not damaged too much. They shot at and missed an enemy two man mini sub one of whose crew died and one was captured as the first Japanese prisoner of war. This same ship was involved in huge navel battles. Leyte gulf in the Philippines, Battle of the Corral Sea, Iwo jima, Guadacanal, and on. Read about it here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Helm_(DD-388)#/search

We were best fishing buddies. He never talked much about the war. One thing he did say one time was being on battle stations for weeks at a time in the Coral Sea wearing double life jackets because they expected to be sunk at any time. He definitely had PTSD which no one knew about or how to deal with it. They called it something else "shell shock". The war cost him his marrige with my grandmother, but he got better, recovered and was remarried to a wonderful woman and lived to be 86.

The United States has pretty much been in a continuous state of war since the beginning of the 20th century. During that time we have enjoyed a relative state of domestic peace not really true peace. Now, relative peace is being threatened by terrorist acts here at home. Also during that time frame mankind now has the power to destroy all human life on this planet with atomic weapons. We are on the brink of global eviromental, political and religious disaster. This calls to mind this bible verse. Jeremiah 10:23 "I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." Isn't it time for God to step in at Armageddon and start ruling mankind through his kingdom arrangement with his son Jesus as king? Dan 2:44, Ps 37:11, 29, Revelation 5: 9 and 10.

Millions now living are living in harmony with the fullfillment of this bible prophecy that is quoted in front of the United Nations building in NY. Isaiah 2: 2-4 * 2*In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. 3*And many peoples will go and say:“Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. 4*He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore.

The question is do you want to join them?
 

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Fairy tales won't come true, it won't happen to you, cause your young at heart. Humanity being humanity we will continue to practice war and kill each other
so long as humanity exists. Of that I am certain. My god is better than your god is a stupid reason for war but it is the one most used over all of recorded history.
Even though greed and lust for power are the real reasons, it is religion that is quoted to the masses as a reason to go to war.
 

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Or Elks Lodge raised enough funds to send four WW2 vets there for the 75TH. I was in charge of the motorcycle escort that took them to the airport.
Doing God's work...
 

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My grandfather Eddie B. Daugherty was a chief boatsun mate on the destroyer Helm DD-388 at Pearl Harbor. Eddie B was aka "Redi Red" a wiry indominable red headed Irish man from Texas. The Helm was underway when the attack happened and was able to steam out to sea. One of the few boats able do so. They were bombed on both sides and strafed but not damaged too much. They shot at and missed an enemy two man mini sub one of whose crew died and one was captured as the first Japanese prisoner of war. This same ship was involved in huge navel battles. Leyte gulf in the Philippines, Battle of the Corral Sea, Iwo jima, Guadacanal, and on. Read about it here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Helm_(DD-388)#/search
my grandfather retired as a chief boatswain mate. my dad lived in pearl city as a kid for 2 years in the mid 50's he said there was a plaque to a mini-sub that was found and re-sunk off the coast. one of the 5.
 

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Phelonious you are correct about religions of all kinds and even those who call themselves Christians as being major causes of wars and participants in wars. You may be surprized to know that the bible identifies true Christians as being peaceful and politically neutral as their alliegience should be to God's kingdom and not to human governments. Jesus said his followers would be no part of the world and John 13: 34&35 says that an identifing mark of true Christians would be that they have love amoung themselves. The answer is yes of course it is hypocrisy if a Christian from one country kills another Christian in some other country. This is not what most churches are teaching though. It's all about God and country, patriotism and religion seperating people all over the world. And don't get me started about Christians killing people of other religions or other religions killing each other. Just don't include my religion in your broad sweeping statement about religion and war. I am part of a world wide brotherhood of millions of Christians living in every Island, country and nation on earth living in harmony with the fullfillment of that prophecy in Isaiah. We practice peace and do our best to love our fellow man no matter what country we live in.
 

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My father was in Honolulu that Sunday morning as a civilian. He had jumped ship there in the mid- thirties preferring island life to the hardships of mainland depression and the merchant marine. Becoming a benevolent paniolo supervisor he embraced polynesian culture and languages cultivating many contacts that later served him in Naval Intelligence. He helped determine which natives were sympathetic to the Japanese or the Allies as American forces planned their march across the south pacific islands. He was later shot through and through abdomen on a occupied atoll somewhere in the Marshalls and carried those puckered Arisaka scars rest of his life.
 

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Fred was it a type 99 or 38? Lol I had to look it up. I have deep respect and appreciation for those who loyally served according to their conscience and look for better days ahead.
 

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I inherited an early model type 38 I believe with the chrysanthemum headstamp I foolishly traded away. It took hard to find ammo and was ridiculously long. P7080016.jpg jinsen1.jpg
 

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My father was in Honolulu that Sunday morning as a civilian. He had jumped ship there in the mid- thirties preferring island life to the hardships of mainland depression and the merchant marine. Becoming a benevolent paniolo supervisor he embraced polynesian culture and languages cultivating many contacts that later served him in Naval Intelligence. He helped determine which natives were sympathetic to the Japanese or the Allies as American forces planned their march across the south pacific islands. He was later shot through and through abdomen on a occupied atoll somewhere in the Marshalls and carried those puckered Arisaka scars rest of his life.
Holy Chit! Greatest Generation for sure! Thanks for adding this story to this thread Fred.


P.S. Yes, I had to google Paniolo to see what it meant. ha ha :p
 
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