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Planning on being in Death Valley last few days of October and possibly beginning of November. Anyone else going to be there around then? I already have a campsite at Penniment Springs. Thinking about riding 2-3days in Death Valley and possibly loading the bike up on the trailer and heading down to run Mojave Road from the East to West. Then back to DV or somewhere else on the way back to the Bay Area. I've ridden almost all of the trails in DV but it's still a lot of fun to explore out there.

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If I don't get around to it before then I might be up for the Mojave Road.



My reptilian nature wants to do it right about now, rather than later.
 

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Too hot for your Bay butt. lol.



Western section prolly real hot, lurking around 100. The high country before the river should be nice, 80's or so, then 115 at river level.



I just don't want to get into another fluke situation like we had last year, with the flooding and freezing later on, and not make the trip at all. The bunny squeezers are itching to close off/ reroute/steal/ misappropriate a few hundred thousand more acres out there and I don't know how many sections will become inaccessible this time around. Use it or lose it.



I may go with ya anyway, even if I squeeze a trip in in the next few weeks. But I do hot far better than I do cold. I'm a delicate flower.



Are you planning to truck the bike down from DV or are you gunna ride?
 

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Too hot, oh come on I live in Walnut Creek it was 89 degrees when I got home at 6PM last night.LOL

I'd be trucking the bike down from DV since my current tire combo is a little rough on pavement(ok I'm a wimp on pavement)

Any good (read: secure) places to leave a truck and trailer at either end? I'm toying with the idea of doing it on the bike from East to West, then stashing the bike/trailer and taking 2-3 days and exploring it in the 4runner if I can find someone to caravan with.

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Avi Indian Casino is near the eastern trailhead. Should be perfectly safe, and cheap comfortable overnighter in the hotel. Basic Vegas type rooms, clean and comfy, ginormous parking area. Normally around 50 bucks.



The western end is pretty sketchy. The trailhead is in the boonies, but gets just enough traffic to be of concern. I wouldn't leave my truck there unless I could find some long-term campers in Afton Canyon who would be willing to keep an eye on it.



As you're aware you'd still have the logistics issue of getting back to your vehicle, which means either 120 miles of dirt or riding Route 66 and a bit of Interstate 15 to get back.



No guarantees I'll be able to go, but since Purple's not into doing the whole road there's a possibility that she could arrange a Girl's Weekend in Laughlin and pick us up on either end for the return.



I've ridden the 500 mile round trip from here to Laughlin on my Bighorn 2. In fact I've probably ridden more pavement than dirt with it at this point. Other than the decreased acceleration and fuel mileage it's not an issue. Handles fine.
 

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I would love to go but don't know if I can afford it. I've been riding in Death Valley out of Panamint springs twice in the past 3 years. It's good fun, of course. Unfortunately if it's on a weekend, as Ronnydog suggested, I'd have to take three days off work...and I simply cannot afford to lose $160 AND spend $70+ in one weekend
So unless someone wants to give me $250...
 

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Will you be camping off the TW for this or 'base camping' from the truck? I am interested if we camp from the truck...but I don't want to even try to pack up my camping gear on the TW.



Here is what I packed for a recent 3 day/2 night 420 mile ATV ride in Az.




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Depends which trip you're referring to.



Death Valley's is the kind of place where you can ride in several directions from a base camp.



The Mojave Road is 140 miles end-to-end, meaning you have to get back to your starting point to pick up your hauling vehicle. While not the most difficult terrain to negotiate. you still risk ickygooeydeath if you have an equipment failure, as even if you're near the couple of jumping-out points can mean a 30-60 mile walk.



To me it's not the sort of ride you just blow through in a day because there are interesting (to me) places to stop and things to see along the way. I'd want to do it in a minimum of 2 days. Quad's pace is fine with me.



But I'm a sleeping-bag-and-bunchajunkfood kinda guy. I overload on water and tools and stay pretty minimalist on the rest.



Time is usually an issue for Josh. I suppose you guys could blow through the trail in a day if need be. I'd even be willing to do that with you provided I get my own "snail's pace" trip in before you get here, then have Purple do the hauling.



I'm close enough to either location to just ride there.
 

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I was thinking the Death Valley Ride.



Plan on doing Mojave Road with my Jeep, although I'm not opposed to doing a fast TW ride through it if it can be done in a day with the ride on the highway back to truck.



I've done 200 mile rides in a day on the quad on rough trails, so I'm used to fast paced with few rest break rides.



I just would have to REALLY think about camping off a TW. Maybe just a small tarp & sleeping bag with trail food. The problem is I drink A LOT of water as I stay hydrated, so how to carry a couple of gallons of water on a TW with minimal camping gear is the question.
 

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LOL. My rack will hold enough junk for a small ( minimalist) army. I actually built my bike to be self-sufficient on the Mojave Road, and I don't mind being Mother Ship to anyone, but as I said I'm not a big fan of blowing past the roses.



It's mostly about water, and partly about fuel. I can carry most of the water and gear. Fuel isn't a big concern for me as I have the 350 tank.



Which makes another case against hauling arse. 1.8 MIGHT squeak by at a slow pace, but it will be iffy at the 100 mile mark. Blasting the entire trail won't work on a stock tank.



Josh has yet to weigh in, and this is his trip and his thread. We've tried to put this together in the past, but I'll make you guys a deal if you're interested. I'll be your tour guide and pack mule, Purple will do the hauling and I'll put off my own trip as long as you'll agree to my 2 day minimum, ride your TW and leave your cappuccino machine at home. I already carry enough tools for all of us, so you guys can focus on fuel and extra water. Sleeping bag, maybe a pad, minimal chow and tons of water. My bike trailer can deal with three TW's but when you throw in the quad she'll have to drive my car hauler and she has no experience with that.



I'm up for either if the planets align, but I'd have a hard time justifying burning a couple hundred bucks worth of fuel for an 8 hour blast across the desert.



If Ronny can make it you'll never catch him, anyway
 

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LOL. My rack will hold enough junk for a small ( minimalist) army. I actually built my bike to be self-sufficient on the Mojave Road, and I don't mind being Mother Ship to anyone, but as I said I'm not a big fan of blowing past the roses.



It's mostly about water, and partly about fuel. I can carry most of the water and gear. Fuel isn't a big concern for me as I have the 350 tank.



Which makes another case against hauling arse. 1.8 MIGHT squeak by at a slow pace, but it will be iffy at the 100 mile mark. Blasting the entire trail won't work on a stock tank.



Josh has yet to weigh in, and this is his trip and his thread. We've tried to put this together in the past, but I'll make you guys a deal if you're interested. I'll be your tour guide and pack mule, Purple will do the hauling and I'll put off my own trip as long as you'll agree to my 2 day minimum, ride your TW and leave your cappuccino machine at home. I already carry enough tools for all of us, so you guys can focus on fuel and extra water. Sleeping bag, maybe a pad, minimal chow and tons of water. My bike trailer can deal with three TW's but when you throw in the quad she'll have to drive my car hauler and she has no experience with that.



I'm up for either if the planets align, but I'd have a hard time justifying burning a couple hundred bucks worth of fuel for an 8 hour blast across the desert.



If Ronny can make it you'll never catch him, anyway :
Oh Hell yeah I'm good for two days. Super minimalist, if on bike, sleeping bag, trail mix, water,tequila, ect,. I'm use to doing 120 offroad per day even with a sprained wrist (don't ask). DV, I usually base camp out of Panamint Springs and do day trips. That way I can be back at camp and cooking stuff like carne asada on the grill and sipping adult beverages while looking at the stars. I was only suggesting 1 day for mojave road cause I thought I'd be doing it a few days later in a truck; kinda of a prerunning event.

Basically I'm flexible and riding with other people should help keep my speed at a managable (safe) pace.



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Sounds like a good trip being put together and the right time of the year for the temps. Remember to post some pics for us all to drool over.
 

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If I don't get around to it before then I might be up for the Mojave Road.



My reptilian nature wants to do it right about now, rather than later.


Hey Josh –Halloween weekend is bad timing for me. Sorry to miss an awesome sounding DV trip.



Lizardbrth - I am interesting in joining a slow paced ride on the Mojave Road sometime before earlier. Lemme know if you plan any specifics.
 

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Purple has reminded me that the weekend proposed is her bday weekend. With all that shuttling we'll have no opportunity to celebrate. I'll need top bump it at least a weekend either direction.



It appears Greenalder is slumming again




Missed ya, dude. Get in touch.
 

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Purple has reminded me that the weekend proposed is her bday weekend. With all that shuttling we'll have no opportunity to celebrate. I'll need top bump it at least a weekend either direction.



It appears Greenalder is slumming again




Missed ya, dude. Get in touch.




How about October 7,8,9,10?
 

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Azsandrider and I may also be interested..When you say a slow speed old person paced ride, your talking about 5th gear pinned? sliding around corners? last one there is a rotten egg..? What a bunch of snobs. I think ill join the old person crew with their 4 wheel drive couches...



What will the weather be this type of year? Coming from Az, it would still be in the high 80's probably.



Friday-monday would work great with my type of work.
 

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There goes the neighborhood...



You can bring up the rear. You ain't splattering fork oil on me
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How about November 4th and 5th? That way, I can spend the beginning part of the week in DV. Early October is a little tight for me. Geeze I still need to figure out if I'm going to have to swap out springs for some stiffer units in my RT180 front end.

Josh

On a side note anyone catch the new Top Gear last weekend. They did a trail through DV, up Goler Wash/Mengel Pass, brought back some fun memories.
 
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