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Hi everyone, new member and new owner of a 2019 TW. After reading through a lot of forum posts and not wanting to turn a perfectly good stock bike into a major project, are there any immediate changes that you experienced gentlemen or ladies make on a new TW? Any pieces or parts on a factory TW that should be replaced that might increase the longevity or or overall enjoyment of the bike when riding?

I've been riding dirt bikes for a couple seasons, but still a relatively novice rider, all expert advice and criticism is welcome
 

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Here is my two cents in order of importance:

First:
- Invest in good/safe/comfortable riding gear (especially helmets and boots first)
- Larger foot pegs / shifter ( for safety and comfort )
- Alternate front tire ( safety )
- Bar risers (if needed for your height and riding preference)

Options based on riding style/area/preference:

- Rear rack (Cyclerack or Manrack)
- Skid Plate ( Ricochet if you ride enough off-road )
- Alternate lighting (if riding often at night)
- New chain (O or X ring)
- Suspension front/rear springs (if you need it based on riding and weight )
- Windscreen ( if you need/want it )
- Fuel capacity ( if you really need it)


Any questions just ask. Amazing group of helpful, experienced riders here.
 

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These are the first changes I made making my riding experience more pleasurable. Problem is, I didn't know about the forum for 5 years after buying my 2005 and I rode it stock.

Depending on how much you ride off-road you might want the following possible changes:

Wider Footpegs - not expensive (so you can stand when riding off-road better without your feet slipping off)
2" bar risers - not expensive (posture improvement)
Better front tire (Shinko SR241 as an example but not the only one) $50 ish. (won't wash out nearly as bad as the stock front tire). The stock front tire is not-so-affectionately know as the "Death Wing". The knobbies don't grip like you want. The stock front tire is just fine on pavement though.
 

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I think this is a great list to start building! Certainly you should ride it for awhile and see what you personally want or how you want to ride it.

That being said, I'm a new rider myself but here are some things I noticed that people usually change:
1) The Front Tire - The front Trailwing stock tire is street-leaning and many people find them slippery on pavement, so anyone who rides more mixed-use and definitely people who do more off-roading usually swap it out. A Shinko SR241 is a pretty common replacement.
2) The Mirrors - The stock mirrors don't seem to do much for some people, especially taller riders. I've seen the Doubletake and Emgo mirrors recommended, but you can put anything with a 10mm Yamaha compatible thread on there (reversed right thread).
3) The Chain - Not a necessary swap on a new bike, but an O-ring or X-ring chain to replace stock is a popular aftermarket purchase.
 

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Welcome to the forum BigBlake!

I would suggest removing the end cap on the muffler (that is, if you are able get it off!). Use a JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdriver, or preferably a hand impact driver with a JIS bit. Do not try to use a standard Philips screwdriver!

If you are able to get this end cap off, use a generous amount of anti-seize on both the cap and the screw when you replace it. These end caps are notoriously difficult to remove after just a few years of heat cycling, rain, mud, rust, etc.

You and/or the next owner of this bike will appreciate this effort if this end cap needs to come off sometime in the future.

Brian
 

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Here is my two cents in order of importance:

First:
- Invest in good/safe/comfortable riding gear (especially helmets and boots first)
- Larger foot pegs / shifter ( for safety and comfort )
- Alternate front tire ( safety )
- Bar risers (if needed for your height and riding preference)

Options based on riding style/area/preference:

- Rear rack (Cyclerack or Manrack)
- Skid Plate ( Ricochet if you ride enough off-road )
- Alternate lighting (if riding often at night)
- New chain (O or X ring)
- Suspension front/rear springs (if you need it based on riding and weight )
- Windscreen ( if you need/want it )
- Fuel capacity ( if you really need it)


Any questions just ask. Amazing group of helpful, experienced riders here.
Thanks for the response, protective gear I should be good. I am a larger rider (a true lovechild of the Michelin man and the jolly green giant), 6’2” around 400lbs of raging fury. So if any forum members need help finding gear for bigger riders, I got you fam!

I was checking out the links provided to the TW procycle page, I was definitely looking at the wider foot-pegs, I’m fairly comfortable with the height and angle of the stock handlebars considering my gorilla arms, do you (or anyone else) have any input on replacing the stock bars for durability?

I installed the Ferreus rear cargo rack last weekend and bolted on a small pelican case, going to test out some 6” and 8” pipe clamps for two tool tubes to go on the side of the rack (I’m winging it on this one, any advise is super welcome).

The “death wing” inspires immediate concern lol, I’ll be doing about 50/50 on/off road, I’ll look into scooping up a shinko and see how the ride feels after.

I’ll also be picking up a banshee rear shock and installing a stiffer coil to address the additional weight.

Anyone here put in the stiffer front fork spring from the procycle listing? Noticeable difference in handling? Dampening?
 

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Welcome to the forum BigBlake!

I would suggest removing the end cap on the muffler (that is, if you are able get it off!). Use a JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdriver, or preferably a hand impact driver with a JIS bit. Do not try to use a standard Philips screwdriver!

If you are able to get this end cap off, use a generous amount of anti-seize on both the cap and the screw when you replace it. These end caps are notoriously difficult to remove after just a few years of heat cycling, rain, mud, rust, etc.

You and/or the next owner of this bike will appreciate this effort if this end cap needs to come off sometime in the future.

Brian
Here comes the novice I mentioned earlier... what does removing the end cap do? Is it just to free it up in case it needs to be removed later? I haven’t finished reading through the repair manual, so I’m fresh off the boat when it comes to exhaust stuff aside from a swap I did on my KZ550
 

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I think this is a great list to start building! Certainly you should ride it for awhile and see what you personally want or how you want to ride it.

That being said, I'm a new rider myself but here are some things I noticed that people usually change:
1) The Front Tire - The front Trailwing stock tire is street-leaning and many people find them slippery on pavement, so anyone who rides more mixed-use and definitely people who do more off-roading usually swap it out. A Shinko SR241 is a pretty common replacement.
2) The Mirrors - The stock mirrors don't seem to do much for some people, especially taller riders. I've seen the Doubletake and Emgo mirrors recommended, but you can put anything with a 10mm Yamaha compatible thread on there (reversed right thread).
3) The Chain - Not a necessary swap on a new bike, but an O-ring or X-ring chain to replace stock is a popular aftermarket purchase.
Not to sound too cherry, but are there existing concerns related to stock chain performance?

Also, if you can picture a Russian circus bear on a child’s bicycle... any thoughts on mirrors that might reach a little wider than stock? Do they make ones that you can mount to the handlebars closer to the outside? The stock ones are just a tiny bit too close to get a good view of vehicles behind me, I read about some that attach to hand guards? Thoughts?
 

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Thanks for the response, protective gear I should be good. I am a larger rider (a true lovechild of the Michelin man and the jolly green giant), 6’2” around 400lbs of raging fury. So if any forum members need help finding gear for bigger riders, I got you fam!

I was checking out the links provided to the TW procycle page, I was definitely looking at the wider foot-pegs, I’m fairly comfortable with the height and angle of the stock handlebars considering my gorilla arms, do you (or anyone else) have any input on replacing the stock bars for durability?

I installed the Ferreus rear cargo rack last weekend and bolted on a small pelican case, going to test out some 6” and 8” pipe clamps for two tool tubes to go on the side of the rack (I’m winging it on this one, any advise is super welcome).

The “death wing” inspires immediate concern lol, I’ll be doing about 50/50 on/off road, I’ll look into scooping up a shinko and see how the ride feels after.

I’ll also be picking up a banshee rear shock and installing a stiffer coil to address the additional weight.

Anyone here put in the stiffer front fork spring from the procycle listing? Noticeable difference in handling? Dampening?
I put the heaviest front and rear springs on my 2015 TW with the stock rear spring. Stiffer and I don't bottom out. 6' 250 lbs.

Easier to change the rear sprocket than front which requires you to remove the left side cover with possible associated gasket removal issues and pinched wires issue. Try 14/55 in the future. 14/50 is stock.
 

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The stock chain stretches like a rubber band with dirt and water applied. No amount of preventative service or care will matter.
If you feel your clutch slip, or unhappy with the on/off feel of the clutch play, heavier clutch springs will fix both. I really needed to be able to play the clutch as I have stock gearing on the sprockets and do not want to sacrifice top end speed for low end torque. I don't ride often enough to worry about wearing out the clutch plates, so slipping the piss out of 'em works great for me.

There are aftermarket RAM mirrors that use the ball/socket design RAM is famous for that work with the TW200, but pricey at $130 a pair. Not only are they long, you can either add more length or change out the extender part for a longer version for not much money. The best part is that they actually are functional, providing a clear rear view instead of a blurred one at speed. They fold in when going off road or crashing. Check out the photos on this Amazon link. A guy takes a baseball bat to them and they hold up. For that alone, I think they are worth the price.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHVYK3J/?coliid=IS6KYDHWDLK9W&colid=ZO07J7YSGGZ7&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
 

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The stock chain stretches like a rubber band with dirt and water applied. No amount of preventative service or care will matter.
If you feel your clutch slip, or unhappy with the on/off feel of the clutch play, heavier clutch springs will fix both. I really needed to be able to play the clutch as I have stock gearing on the sprockets and do not want to sacrifice top end speed for low end torque. I don't ride often enough to worry about wearing out the clutch plates, so slipping the piss out of 'em works great for me.

There are aftermarket RAM mirrors that use the ball/socket design RAM is famous for that work with the TW200, but pricey at $130 a pair. Not only are they long, you can either add more length or change out the extender part for a longer version for not much money. The best part is that they actually are functional, providing a clear rear view instead of a blurred one at speed. They fold in when going off road or crashing. Check out the photos on this Amazon link. A guy takes a baseball bat to them and they hold up. For that alone, I think they are worth the price.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHVYK3J/?coliid=IS6KYDHWDLK9W&colid=ZO07J7YSGGZ7&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
Awesome! Thanks for the follow-up, mirrors sound exactly what I am looking for... I actually was going to post in one of the other threads about my clutch lever kind of being sticky on release (sure some cable lube would help) it’ll come out about 1/4 and hangs and will jump a little more as less pressure is applied. I’ll look into those heavier springs, thanks!
 

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Also, if you can picture a Russian circus bear on a child’s bicycle... any thoughts on mirrors that might reach a little wider than stock? Do they make ones that you can mount to the handlebars closer to the outside? The stock ones are just a tiny bit too close to get a good view of vehicles behind me, I read about some that attach to hand guards? Thoughts?
Mirror extenders work well. Make sure that you get ones for Yamaha that have a reverse thread on the right side.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10mm-CNC-Motorcycle-Rear-View-Mirror-Mount-Risers-Extenders-Adapters-Universal/132475731067?fits=Make:Yamaha&hash=item1ed82b3c7b:m:my9uBEVWf2PQIN4ylHAr2rQ
 

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I have owned a TW200 about a month now, but these are my mods so far. I'm 6'3" 190lbs. The bike (used) came with a Cycleracks rear rack which I love, and Moose racing handguards (also great)

2" Rox Risers: $80 Amazon
Ricochet Skid Plate: $105 Procycle
Narrow rear blinkers to sit inboard of the rack: $16 Amazon
Coleman Maddog ATV seat cover: $20 Walmart
Homemade windshield (Jimbo clone): $14
Oversized steel foot pegs: $22 Amazon
Ridgid Tool Box for rear rack: $30 Home Depot

On my To-Buy list are:
Shinko 241 front tire
Heavy Duty tubes
DID X-Ring chain
Rotopax fuel & water containers

Pretty happy with how it sits so far though.

Bike pre-mods:
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Here comes the novice I mentioned earlier... what does removing the end cap do? Is it just to free it up in case it needs to be removed later?
Yes, this is just some early preventive maintenance to avoid a bigger problem in the future.
Oh perfect! Thanks for showing me those, this forum is awesome! I’ll pick up a set of those to use for now, and grab a set of the RAMs later.
 

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I have owned a TW200 about a month now, but these are my mods so far. I'm 6'3" 190lbs. The bike (used) came with a Cycleracks rear rack which I love, and Moose racing handguards (also great)

2" Rox Risers: $80 Amazon
Ricochet Skid Plate: $105 Procycle
Narrow rear blinkers to sit inboard of the rack: $16 Amazon
Coleman Maddog ATV seat cover: $20 Walmart
Homemade windshield (Jimbo clone): $14
Oversized steel foot pegs: $22 Amazon
Ridgid Tool Box for rear rack: $30 Home Depot

On my To-Buy list are:
Shinko 241 front tire
Heavy Duty tubes
DID X-Ring chain
Rotopax fuel & water containers

Pretty happy with how it sits so far though.

Bike pre-mods:
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I read about some people having to trim or rig the seat cover (I just ordered one on amazon) did you run into that? Nice setup!
 

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Yes, this is just some early preventive maintenance to avoid a bigger problem in the future.
While you have the end cap off, replace the screw with a stainless hex head screw. That was one of the first things I did with my 2017 to avoid future problems.
 

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IMHO the MadDog seat cover is a poor attempt at improving an otherwise uncomfortable stock seat. I tried one and couldn't wait to give it away, feeling it was ugly and actually making things worse comfort wise for me.
A moderately expensive but excellent option is the Seat Concepts foam plus cover kit. Available directly from Seat Concepts, or at a discount from Forum member PlacerLoad, these kits can come with a denser foam likely better for your size. Otherwise custom seat foam and covers can be made but can get pricey.
 
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