I've found many Aerostitch jackets on sale on ebay. Besides Aerostitch, check out RS Taichi. Japanese brand (manufactured in China), good styling, variety of mesh, textile and leather (regular cowhide or Japanese cow(bred specifically for leather jackets). Still a little pricey but when compared to italian brands, they are a bargain. I've had my non goretex Langley all season textile model for a year now and had a lowside and the jacket is still in good condition and waterproof (considering how lightweight the jacket feels without the armor-I'm amazed).