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I was unable to approach my goal from the east following the directions I told Tuna to take. My goal was to visit Bofort and two other mine/ghost towns as well as see if Betty Boop could make it up to the 11,300 ft saddle between Peterson Mtn and Wheeler Peak. Approaching from the west I could not safely cross the Deep Creek outflow of Lobdell Lake. So I spent three nights camped up high and explored some but not all of riding to be sampled. No shortage of cold, clear, sweet meltwater. Here is but just some of the splashing
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Maybe Tuna who is there now could get his ATV across Desert and Deep Creeks and on up and over the summit and tell us about it. The roads are all fairly smooth and inviting as they lead all over expansive mostly treeless ridge lines.
I plan to return...with more gas, more time, and more friends.
 

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I like the "more friends part"... :D
I was unable to approach my goal from the east following the directions I told Tuna to take. My goal was to visit Bofort and two other mine/ghost towns as well as see if Betty Boop could make it up to the 11,300 ft saddle between Peterson Mtn and Wheeler Peak. Approaching from the west I could not safely cross the Deep Creek outflow of Lobdell Lake. So I spent three nights camped up high and explored some but not all of riding to be sampled. No shortage of cold, clear, sweet meltwater. Here is but just some of the splashing
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Maybe Tuna who is there now could get his ATV across Desert and Deep Creeks and on up and over the summit and tell us about it. The roads are all fairly smooth and inviting as they lead all over expansive mostly treeless ridge lines.
I plan to return...with more gas, more time, and more friends.
 

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“more friends is right” -Tuna got delayed so that he arrived later the day I had to depart.
Actually the region would make a good group ride destination.
There is abundant primative camping at a tolerable 9,000 foot level with lots of shade, sheltering trees, endless firewood and a nice view of those two peaks that mocked me with their inaccessibility due to high water.

Actually these 11,000 plus peaks have been in the background of many a view I have enjoyed over the years. They are about the highest things around and low and behold one can ride darn near the top of both of them!


And if you look to the west there is Sonora Pass and the lee slope of the Sierras. Great views. And the Sonora Junction for the pass is less than 8 air miles away (probably 30 miles by road ).
 

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If anyone could make it up there, it would be you. :p:D
“more friends is right” -Tuna got delayed so that he arrived later the day I had to depart.
Actually the region would make a good group ride destination.
There is abundant primative camping at a tolerable 9,000 foot level with lots of firewood, sheltering trees, endless firewood and a nice view of those two peaks that mocked me with their inaccessibility due to high water. Actually these 11,000 plus peaks have been in the background of many a view I have enjoyed over the years. They are about the highest things around and low and behold one can ride darn near the top of both of them!
 

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I forgot to mention the wildflowers. Botanically speaking it is springtime at those elevations. Late snowmelt is triggering impressive blooms, some valleys are quite colorful.


The lupine I know and adore, they commonly likes road margins and artificial clearings.


“Lupine Blue” is what I’ll call the new paint on Betty’s exhuast heat shields. New blue and orange paints looks good but dusty. Maybe skid plate should be blue too, if only briefly.:p


Most impressive were thousands of what I believer are Dutch Iris.





Plus delicate blue and white ground cover was here and there and if one slows down enough and looks carefully there are multitudes of yellow 3mm ground hugging flowers to small to photo.


Betty wanted to stop and admire all the flowers...I just wanted to use them for traction.
 

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So nice/great video.
 

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Admiral, grab Lori and load up the TWs and let’s go ride here sometime. Many miles of smooth twin track meanders over ridges and drop into wooded canyons or 9,900 ft peaks.
Very easy riding, would be good for Tweaker and his family since his daughter is learning to ride.
Good camping from 7,000 ft to over 9,000 ft.
Day rides to and over Sonora Pass are possible.
Motel accommodations can be had an hour away in Bridgeport for those who prefer not to “rough it”.
 

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Admiral, grab Lori and load up the TWs and let’s go ride here sometime. Many miles of smooth twin track meanders over ridges and drop into wooded canyons or 9,900 ft peaks.
Very easy riding, would be good for Tweaker and his family since his daughter is learning to ride.
Good camping from 7,000 ft to over 9,000 ft.
Day rides to and over Sonora Pass are possible.
Motel accommodations can be had an hour away in Bridgeport for those who prefer not to “rough it”.

Wow, this video has some great views of the mountains. Yes, this is a great potential ride area. I'm gonna have to present this ride idea to Mrs. Admiral and see what our schedule looks like. I'd really like to ride here and I know she would too if there is enough vacation time.


You mentioned the prices of gas in Bridgeport in another thread somewhere. We remember they were extremely high...and such a cute community too.
 

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That does look at great place to ride! Did you take a pic of the water that couldn't be crossed?
 

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I repeated my guidebook to the eastern sierras claim that Bridgeport has the most expensive gas on 395. I think it is a bit more than the gas in neighboring town of Lee Vining at base of Tioga Pass into Yosemite. To the north is Minden which had discount regular for as low as $2.45/gallon while Bridgeport was closer to $4/gallon. So guess where I recommend filling up the TW’s spare cans?
The riding is really nice. Smooth and easy enough to rubberneck while riding so as to enjoy the 360 degree views, yet with enough variety every mile that you don’t get bored. Big badger holes, prairie dogs, hawks and a zillion butterflies were seen, as well as the occasional several hundred head herd of sheep down low.:p
 

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Tuna will probably tell you I was a wimp to not cross Desert or Deep Creeks but being all alone at elevation while recovering from some injuries caused me to recall my pledge to Mrs. Fred to be careful and not come back home hurt again. Besides Betty Boop’s submarinability remains untested since latest mods. Here is Desert Creek flowing clear, fast and a good two feet deep: f022ca2802e142a1c3714a9e140dc56e.jpg
A bit downstream at the fording point the creek widens and shallows but the best looking line still had a couple melon sized rocks in the deeper, faster channel.





Once across another 5 miles of trail leading off in the distance will take you to the two 11,000 foot peaks in the background and beyond to Belfort and down thousands of feet to the South Walker River. Road also forks in the tree line and a left will take you dozens of miles along similar naked weathered andesite mountains to also eventually rejoin HWY 108 along Walker River.
Circling Lake Lobdell the other way and exploring next canyon took me to an interesting single track heading into the high country via a narrowing and steepening canyon that convinced me that having a buddy to help if needed would be wise.
 

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Besides there were drier places to ride, or at least where the water was still frozen like up here on 9,900 ft plus Sweetwater Peak.


There they have an impressive state radio site piggybacking a microwave phone repeater but no cell tower. A good 3,000 plus square feet of solar panels in 5 arrays of carrying age provide a good place to get out of the sun and eat and drink. The elevation tends to accelerate dehyration.
This winter was hard on lots of things including the electronic station. Some solar panels got bent.


Control and switching boxes were torn loose by snow i guess.



Same for the intake and cooling air exhausts for the standby generator’s building which somewhat peeled away likely letting meltwater into building.
 

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I would say you made the wise choice Fred. You can be a little more daring when you have a riding buddy. As far as Joeband crossing it....LOL. He'd drown his bike and then be sitting on the other side pouring water out of his riding boots and ringing out his socks....Hmmmm, I seem to recall a pic of him doing just that......
 

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Joeband could cross it!
Tell Joe this is the section of water to be crossed:

Or if he can balance on a log there was this dry feet crossing:

Actually this was down at Kennedy Meadows at ~6,400 foot elevation.
 

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Evan, declare a shop holiday for a day or two next month and come ride the Sweetwaters with me. Whether you cross over via 80,50,88,4,108 or 120 all those trans-sierra drives are darn pretty. Some are darn twisty too, perhaps a bit much for your new travel trailer.
Full moon is Monday August 7th...hint,hint.
 

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We are coming up to a Twain Harte on the 108 in August and was going to explore all along the 108. Maybe we can meet up.
 

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Shucks Tweaker, those Sweetwaters are just off 108. Come on up, it is only about a gallon of TW juice away over awesome Sonora Pass. Your two bikes have proven themselves at over ten thousand feet up at the Golden Trout Wilderness trailheads, maybe TW-ing up 11,300 foot Mt.Peterson would make a good accomplishment
Besides Twain Harte is nice but will it have those 360 degree vistas for you to rubber-neck around while your daughter put-puts ahead on some beginner-grade roads? Notice no Moab-like cliffs, rock ledges or boulder fields in the pics and vids? Nice easy riding.
 
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