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Just got one of my 2 2019 t dubs back from the 600 mile service and one of them got a tapping noise going on the first ride! Decided to turn around on the forest road I was on and seized up and skidded the back tire! Wouldn't turn over. I'm a mile or 2 from cell service so I let it cool and restarted it. Got a little squeal right at first and squealed a time or 2 more on the way out. It's sitting at the dealer awaiting autopsy Monday. Just thought I'd see what you guys think in the mean time
 

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Are you still under warranty? Although Yamaha/dealer should cover any potential repairs regardless. Hope it all works out for you. I agree it sounds like oil starvation.
 

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Definitely full of oil. Oil pump seems to pick up oil looking in the sight glass. Oil did get dark quick. Filter is the first thing I thought, but if that's the case my wife's bike is fine, so who knows. They will cover it warranty or dealer mistake either way, they seem to be stand up guys.

As far as oil filter goes, that usually causes cam bushing problems right? This seems lower, more like in the cylinder. Noise wise
 

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I can't imagine there are any incorrectly packaged oil filters left out here that many years later? It would have to be a mistake
 

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Yes they are taking care of it I'm just bummed to not be riding! Weather is great right now!
 

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I can't imagine there are any incorrectly packaged oil filters left out here that many years later? It would have to be a mistake
You would be wrong. It is still happening and quite likely happened to you just now! I would insist on being present at the autopsy. And learn how to do your own oil changes!!!!!!! :mad:
 

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I'm more than capable of changing my oil I just gave them the first one for warranty reasons. To be honest I was nervous that I should have done it myself as soon as I dropped it off! Lol. I let the rebates coupons and what not get me in there and I thought hey if I have any problems they'll be the only one who turned a wrench on it! I almost checked the filter before I took it but I wanted to give them no excuses that I did anything!
 

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I don't think they can deny warranty for doing your own oil change. Unless they can prove you did something wrong.
I get that it just seemed like a good idea to streamline any issues that might arrive. Having never dealt with this dealer or even owned a Yamaha for that matter I was leaving everything in their hands you know. I know some dealers and companies for that matter try to get out of everything! Lol. They'll fix it and fix it right or I've got plenty if warranty left to find they did not lol!
 

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Interested to find out what the heck was the cause of a baby Dub croaking....sorry this happened.
 

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Interested to find out what the heck was the cause of a baby Dub croaking....sorry this happened.
Appreciate it. I know I bought these for their legendary reliability! I absolutely love the way they ride. I can bounce up rocky hill climbs with ease that my buddies have to ripp up crazy out of control on their "regular" dual sports!
 

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IF! and that is a big IF, the oil filter is found to have not caused this issue. There is always that rare possibility something inside the engine failed prematurely. These are mechanical after all and any engine can have something such as a ring or bearing go bad in short order and have a catastrophic failure. Warranties are there for this exact reason and be happy yours is still in effect. A buddy just bought a new pickup truck and on the second day driving it to work the transmission locked up and it had to be flat bedded to the dealer. It was a real PITA but the dealer had a complete brand new tranny shipped in and gave him an even nicer truck to use while the repairs were being done. Who knows? Maybe your TW was made on late Friday or early Monday when some assembly line guy had other things on his mind or a nasty hangover.
Let the dealer sort this out but make very sure it gets sorted to your complete satisfaction and they do it right and stand behind their repairs.

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IF! and that is a big IF, the oil filter is found to have not caused this issue. There is always that rare possibility something inside the engine failed prematurely. These are mechanical after all and any engine can have something such as a ring or bearing go bad in short order and have a catastrophic failure. Warranties are there for this exact reason and be happy yours is still in effect. A buddy just bought a new pickup truck and on the
second day driving it to work the transmission locked up and it had to be flat bedded to the dealer. It was a real PITA but the dealer had a complete brand new tranny shipped in and gave him an even nicer truck to use while the repairs were being done. Who knows? Maybe your TW was made on late Friday or early Monday when some assembly line guy had other things on his mind or a nasty hangover.
Let the dealer sort this out but make very sure it gets sorted to your complete satisfaction and they do it right and stand behind their repairs.

GaryL
That my outlook on the situation as well. I was really apprehensive to let someone else service it as I had done a lot of research and felt I knew the things to look for on these bikes (oil filter and lean condition mainly) but I just felt more confident that if something failed during one year warranty period it would be a advantage if it was completely dealer serviced. But all along in the back of my mind I'm thinking will they do it like I would! Oh well, as long as they make it right, everyone makes mistakes. I just hate to miss this ideal riding conditions here in the shawnee national forest!
 

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How do you guys feel about carb mods and the warranty? Run it factory for a year out jet and shim now?
 

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If it is running correctly when you get it back and finish the break-in period I would leave it alone. I shimmed my first TW and for the life of me I couldn't tell the difference. Re-jetting with, say, a 128 might give you a bit better performance in fifth, but remember that as you go up in jet size the gas mileage suffers a bit. For Californians or Arizonians who deal with really steep hills and 100 degree temps near sea level a 130 makes sense but I doubt you would need it in Illinois.
 

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If it is running correctly when you get it back and finish the break-in period I would leave it alone. I shimmed my first TW and for the life of me I couldn't tell the difference. Re-jetting with, say, a 128 might give you a bit better performance in fifth, but remember that as you go up in jet size the gas mileage suffers a bit. For Californians or Arizonians who deal with really steep hills and 100 degree temps near sea level a 130 makes
sense but I doubt you would need it in Illinois.
Thanks I'm glad to hear that Rocky. To be honest I've seem these posts going back for years like it's mandatory that you jet, shim and 2.5 out on pilot screw at sea level. Both my bikes have ran fine with no sign of lean condition. No throttle hesitation plug has a slight tan color, definitely not bleach white. It takes just a few seconds of choke to get them to start easy, but not what I'd call cold natured. the motors seem a little hot, but nothing outside the normal I wouldn't think for a black painted air cooled motor.
 

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My 2018 is like that. When I put the 126 back in to go to the Southern California desert in March it ran just fine at 700 MSL with the pilot about 2.25 turns out, exactly the same setting I use at 6,000 feet. A little fiddling with that if the bike doesn't accelerate smoothly from idle is rather simple. I use a 122 here, but that is because I packed the muffler with fiberglass to lower the sound level and it would balk in fifth at WOT from a rich condition. Usually a stock bike runs fine up to 6 or 7,000 feet, albeit with a loss of power somewhat fixed by re-jetting for altitude. Remember that if you go to Colorado on a trip!
Other TW's over the years have needed more changes to get them to function properly. They are not all exactly the same so your and my experience is not always the case. Don't Worry, Be Happy! :p
 
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