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I took my lunch breaks up side of mountain on some old mining roads up Silver Creek in attempts to put dirt under the tires while getting big views out of the strong wind. Two trail forks extended miles beyond where I was stopped by either high water and snow banks, or fallen timber I couldn't ride around. Worth going back once more other trails are melted out.
 

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While the turn is right off the highway @ the Silver Creek bridge it is rather subtle and thus infrequently explored. I'ld much rather camp there than right next to the road at the $26/night formal campgrounds a bit further up Ebbetts Pass. The roads are a bit too tight for the rig EWB had in Moab but would be fine for simple 4x4 PU or smaller, or hike in.
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Nice views from up high. This false summit hillclimb had hellacious winds such that I had great difficulty pushing bike upright into the wind enough to raise side stand. Felt I was about to blow over and tumble off steep drop offs in all direction. Actually hugged the bike nervously for better part of a minute while series of strong gusts buffeted me like a rag doll. Back on the asphalt I paced some cloud shadows racing along with me at 45, then almost 50 mph. Winds at ground level must have been close at times to winds aloft. Windiest conditions I have ever ridden in.
 

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Awesome, it was great to ride along. I liked the lines you picked, didn't see much if any I wouldn't have picked myself! It's rainy here today and I really needed a ride that was great :)


I took my lunch breaks up side of mountain on some old mining roads up Silver Creek in attempts to put dirt under the tires while getting big views out of the strong wind. Two trail forks extended miles beyond where I was stopped by either high water and snow banks, or fallen timber I couldn't ride around. Worth going back once more other trails are melted out.
 

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Interestingly enough I saw this not too old foundation across a raging creek I could not cross. Now I am curious just what is further up the trail.
 

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"There is Nothing like exploring!" -truer words have yet to be herd. Thanks Jersey Jeeper.
My new entertainment is to scout on Google Earth, find something interesting, then try to go there on the TW. Silver Creek jeep roads were such a find. I had driven past the subtle turn many a time never seeing it as eyes on road were always focused on road ahead with an immediate 50 mph curve and bridge crossing.
Same for the Luther Pass chain of sheep watering troughs...saw a photo and decided to find it on my own.
 

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Fred, Try to get some LIDAR images of your areas of interest. It will knock your socks off you can see things that would amaze you, features pop to life.
I've found wagon trails and abandoned towns in the pinebarrens that there would have been no other way to see. It can see through foliage and ground clutter and see a 100 year old trail no problem.

Example:
LIDAR of Chuckanut Ridge Washington. Looking at this on earth you would see very little of the details that can be seen here. If it were tree covered you would see none. Look into LIDAR you'll get hooked! Hopefully there are images of your area.
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"There is Nothing like exploring!" -truer words have yet to be herd. Thanks Jersey Jeeper.
My new entertainment is to scout on Google Earth, find something interesting, then try to go there on the TW. Silver Creek jeep roads were such a find. I had driven past the subtle turn many a time never seeing it as eyes on road were always focused on road ahead with an immediate 50 mph curve and bridge crossing.
Same for the Luther Pass chain of sheep watering troughs...saw a photo and decided to find it on my own.
 

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LIDAR: You would never find these trails without it...
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LIDAR data seems very interesting, need to investigate further. Better than me looking at light snow covered imagery which often reveals linear features ( old roads & trails) not visible w/o snow.
 

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Funny thing is my alternate ride destination was going to be around Fordyce and Hole-in-the-Ground. The nearest "anywhere" to there was a thousand feet lower at Kingvale which had a reported 13" of wet heavy snow yesterday. I would likely have been snowed in today while digging through bottom of my food box for something to eat. I usually have a few days of emergency food and spare warm clothes. Snow levels now hovering around 7,000 ft. next few days.
 

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Fred, Try to get some LIDAR images of your areas of interest. It will knock your socks off you can see things that would amaze you, features pop to life.
I've found wagon trails and abandoned towns in the pinebarrens that there would have been no other way to see. It can see through foliage and ground clutter and see a 100 year old trail no problem.

Example:
LIDAR of Chuckanut Ridge Washington. Looking at this on earth you would see very little of the details that can be seen here. If it were tree covered you would see none. Look into LIDAR you'll get hooked! Hopefully there are images of your area.
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Where do you find LIDAR images? I've googled it but most what I see tells about it but that's it. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
 

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Where do you find LIDAR images? I've googled it but most what I see tells about it but that's it. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
I have some links at home, mostly east coast stuff though. I'll see what I can dig up for you. Give a target; geo-coordinates, address, intersection. I'm not really sure where you are?
 

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I have some links at home, mostly east coast stuff though. I'll see what I can dig up for you. Give a target; geo-coordinates, address, intersection. I'm not really sure where you are?
So not as easy to use such as google earth? I was going to experiment with an upcoming trip. Does LIDAR cover all area's or just specific locations? Here is an area I'm going ride in the near future:

42°27'10.34"N 116°53'34.42"W (center of the general area)
 
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