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I may be the owner of a new TW200 hopefully around the end of November.
I'm a senior citizen and this one will be my first manual shift bike.

While I like the bike a lot, I hesitate on pulling the trigger because of the carburetor. I haven't had a carbureted vehicle in more than 40 years and from what I can remember they were a pain in the butt to keep in tune. I must assume they have not gotten any better after the advent of FI. The bike will never leave sea level (SoCal) and after being broken in and hopefully having learned manual shifting without hurting myself, it will be ridden once or twice a month for the occasional trip up the Coast. Maybe some of you gentlemen can give me some insight about the reliability/performance of the carburetor under the above described conditions.
I'm really trying not to own something that needs constant tweaking. I've looked at the XT250 but it's a bit too tall. thank you for your help.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Carbs can be more finickier than FI but keep ethanol gas away from it and do the regular maintenance and it’s not as bad as you’d think. Buying a new one and being in SoCal would put you miles ahead of those of us who bought older bikes that already needed help. Cheers and enjoy whatever you wind up with.
 

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I've only owned my TW for a bit more than 2 years. It's a 2006 and used.
Other than changing the oil twice now and filling the fuel tank I have never had to touch the carb.
Bullet-Proof.

All the other crap and gear/sprocket alchemy stuff I've done is just "farkeling". Bike is fine factory prepped, you just may want to personalize it.
 

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Welcome to the forum. I'm also a senior citizen (61) you will not have any problems with the carb( I'm at 3300' above sea level). I have a 2014 that I bought new and have put on 17,500 miles with no problems at all. It's box stock from the factory (yes even the death wing front tire that most members do not like) it wore out at 14,000 miles. Enjoy your new ride.
 

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Thank you all for your observations, you are very kind. This is probably a stupid question but how do I avoid Ethanol gas? I live in SoCal so you can rest assured that we have Ethanol in our gas. Thanks again.
 

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I understand why, but you are overthinking this. This motorcycle is solid as a rock. If you are riding on the road more than the day you may want to get a more Road style tire for it. You will want to change the hearing to make it a little taller also. Also riding on the road you will be covering miles. While the PW get exceptional fuel economy I feel you may want to go gas tank. Clark makes one right on. I've had a lot of motorcycles that were bigger faster and better-looking. But I can't say I had more fun on any of them and I have my TW. If it's possible to buy fuel without ethanol do it. I have never been able to find it. The only time my 200 gets fuel without ethanol is when I have race fuel and it can left Yamaha Jet's V bikes. I can't say I've ever had issue with that Nation using a low-grade regular fuel at the pump from the weekend racing my motocross bike. As lean as Yamaha set Steve's Bike Shop. I can't say I've ever had issue with detonation burning the cheapest low-grade fuel I find at the pump
 

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Welcome to the forum from Canada and I wish you luck on finding the right bike at the right price. As for age no problem I'm sure you have lot's of company here, I'll be 64 in 2 weeks but to me it's just a number because you don't have to drill down very deep to see I'm just a kid in a slightly worn body! :)
 

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If you can't find ethanol-free it's no big deal. I try to keep a tankful in small engine stuff during of-season like the lawn mower and snowblower but thats about it.
Probably an hour+ from the nearest gas station that offers it by me.
Envy those that have them nearby but that's reality. Best thing you can do is "USE" your bike, don't let the fuel sit in there and start disintegrating itself and rubbery/plastic parts and gaskets.

Can use Seafoam or Stabil or any other of the myriad of fuel stabilizers out there if it makes you fell better. But if you use/burn the fuel in the tank it should not matter at all.
A simple machine for simple-super fun.

Here's (below link) one of the many websites that find ethanol-free service stations nationwide on the web. Just choose the name of your State. If nothing is listed by you believe me, no big deal.
https://www.pure-gas.org
 

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I may be the owner of a new TW200 hopefully around the end of November.
I'm a senior citizen and this one will be my first manual shift bike.

While I like the bike a lot, I hesitate on pulling the trigger because of the carburetor. I haven't had a carbureted vehicle in more than 40 years and from what I can remember they were a pain in the butt to keep in tune. I must assume they have not gotten any better after the advent of FI. The bike will never leave sea level (SoCal) and after being broken in and hopefully having learned manual shifting without hurting myself, it will be ridden once or twice a month for the occasional trip up the Coast. Maybe some of you gentlemen can give me some insight about the reliability/performance of the carburetor under the above described conditions.
I'm really trying not to own something that needs constant tweaking. I've looked at the XT250 but it's a bit too tall. thank you for your help.
Welcome. I bet the end of November can't come quick enough. I can kind of tell you need to be more creative in your "reasons (excuses)" to ride more than once or twice a month so you won't have to worry about fluoride or ethanol in your gas...tank. For instance: "oh, I think the sun came up" = go ride, "I think I heard a baby cry" = go ride, "I need a half-cup of coffee creamer" yep = go ride. See where I'm going with this. If you ride all the time then the only tweaking you need to do will be to clean your goggles. :p

Again, welcome and good luck on your upcoming purchase.



P.S. I think I qualify for a discount at McDonald's so I think I could be considered a senior citizen. I've never used the discount though for a couple reasons. One, I don't go to McDonald's very often and two, I forget that I qualify for the discount. The latter I think solidify's my senior citizendom.
 

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P.S. I think I qualify for a discount at McDonald's so I think I could be considered a senior citizen. I've never used the discount though for a couple reasons. One, I don't go to McDonald's very often and two, I forget that I qualify for the discount. The latter I think solidify's my senior citizendom.
Solidify? Admiral, wouldn't McDonalds count more as a Laxative under Medicare, thus they should pick-up 100% of the cost? :)

Funny I was just talking to a friend about the availability of ethanol-free in our area and he said not more than 15 miles from my house I can get it in Stamford, CT.
So I looked it up on that website I posted earlier:

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Wow, I don't think I'd ever need this type of octane rating in the TW200. Would probably blow-it-up.
 

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Solidify? Admiral, wouldn't McDonalds count more as a Laxative under Medicare, thus they should pick-up 100% of the cost? :)

Funny I was just talking to a friend about the availability of ethanol-free in out area and he said not more than 15 miles from my house I can get it in Stamford, CT.
So I looked it up on that website I posted earlier:

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Wow, I don't think I'd ever need this type of octane rating in the TW200. Would probably blow-it-up.
Ha ha, yeah Micky D's work like a laxative on my system for sure. Too funny.

We have lots of places with ethanol free gas but I rarely get it. Our gas doesn't sit that long in the tank though I think the ethanol gas did ruin the o-ring in the needle valve seat in my 2005 TW. And I rode it all year so there is that. I was gonna try higher octane to see if it would help on the very hot days to prevent pinging but I never got too it. Only really pings on a very hot day when pavement riding mostly. Sometimes trail riding but still very rare.
 

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Thank you again gentlemen for the advice. Yes, riding it often is probably the best way to keep the thing running smoothly. I’ll have to do that at the beginning anyway trying to get at least half way proficient on the darn thing. Thanks again.
 

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I have 34,000 kms on my 99 and never a problem with my carb. I also have a 2015 and find the carb works even better than the old style. The low gearing will be good to help you get started learning to ride a manual transmission bike but you may want to swap a 45 tooth rear sprocket shortly after to bring the rpms down on the highway. The factory chain does not last long so it would be good to swap in a o-ring chain at the same time. EK and DID are good brands. If you ever wear the factory tires out which are just fine for the road you might enjoy a set of Bridgestone 203 / 204 tires as they will really smooth out your TW200. Be prepared to have sore cheeks for a while as you get used to smiling so much. Enjoy.
 

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If you can't find ethanol-free it's no big deal. I try to keep a tankful in small engine stuff during of-season like the lawn mower and snowblower but thats about it.
Probably an hour+ from the nearest gas station that offers it by me.
Envy those that have them nearby but that's reality. Best thing you can do is "USE" your bike, don't let the fuel sit in there and start disintegrating itself and rubbery/plastic parts and gaskets.

Can use Seafoam or Stabil or any other of the myriad of fuel stabilizers out there if it makes you fell better. But if you use/burn the fuel in the tank it should not matter at all.
A simple machine for simple-super fun.

Here's (below link) one of the many websites that find ethanol-free service stations nationwide on the web. Just choose the name of your State. If nothing is listed by you believe me, no big deal.
https://www.pure-gas.org
Welcome and I agree with the information above. Riding only twice a month would be your biggest issue. Make sure to use stabilizer of some type in your fuel as stated above and add an inline fuel filter. For even better performance of the carb, keep the rust out of the tank.
 

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Welcome and I agree with the information above. Riding only twice a month would be your biggest issue. Make sure to use stabilizer of some type in your fuel as stated above and add an inline fuel filter. For even better performance of the carb, keep the rust out of the tank.
Thank you Peterb and Ken. I’ll be sure to perform those mods as soon as th engine is broken in.
 

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The 45T rear sprocket and O ring chain are good suggestions but wouldn’t that invalidate the warranty? Thank you.
 

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"The 45T rear sprocket and O ring chain are good suggestions but wouldn’t that invalidate the warranty? Thank you."


That brings up an interesting question. Has anyone ever had to have something fixed under warranty on their new bike and if so what was the problem?
 

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after being broken in and hopefully having learned manual shifting without hurting myself, it will be ridden once or twice a month for the occasional trip up the Coast.
Exactly what do you mean by "occasional trip up the Coast" ?

Distance (by mileage or hours in the saddle); minimum and maximum speed requirements; solo or two up. These things could make a big difference in whether the TW would be appropriate for you (no matter how much we love them).

We have experienced members that have traveled across and around the country on them (and some who after doing so switched to a bigger bike). Others have a second dedicated bikes for longer road trips (even when staying off the freeways). And some find it is just not enough of "whatever" for their needs and move on to something else. If the "carb" bothers you enough - there is always the cough-gag-cough-cough Suzuki VanVan200 which has FI. It's would appear to be similar in many aspects of on-road performance (plus FI for elevations) and has that big cushy seat. However it's styling appears less suited to rough off-road excursions. I don't like it's looks, but for on road - the FI and cushy seat???
 

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To answer your questions: give n take 200 mi. a month.
No motorcycle is appropriate at 73 but some times we do not do what’s appropriate.
The carb question does not bother me enough (considering all the positive comments). I’ve looked at the Van Van, not impressed in a general way.
I ride solo.
I researched the TW200 extensively and it “fits” me well enough to warrant serious consideration. I’m not an impulsive buyer.
I want to learn manual shifting on a small bike. I’ve always owned auto trans bikes/scooters.
I’d like to travel to Baja eventually and the TW seems perfect.
I hope I’ve answered all your questions.

Now, will replacing a sprocket for lower RPMs and an O ring chain invalidate the warranty? Thank you
 
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