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My title for the 2000 TW200 I bought yesterday has a line that states "not eligible for road use." Due to this problem the lady at the DOL would not sell me tags for the Washington plate that is already on the bike. I live in WA, the previous owner lives in WA, and the title is WA. As far as I know there is no "off road only" version of the TW and this is a title that was somehow misprinted?!!



Has anybody else had this problem? This is bringing me down!!!
 

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Did you ask her what she needs to sell you what you need?

Contact your representatives in state government. Feces rolls down hill.

Maybe you can find a friendly state LEO to pay the lady a visit?
 

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Someone at some point at the dmv may have screwed up and got your bike reclassified as a dirt bike. Unless you can find someone to take time to listen, you will be stuck with a "dirt" bike.



What did the last owners title or registration say?



Does the vin on the paperwork match the vin on the bike?



Washington State has been cracking down on ktm's that snuck thru the system and have been revoking plates. Maybe your vin is close to a ktm's and the system kicked your bike out. Does it have a #3 in the eighth position in the VIN? It should be a 0 if I read the regs right.



I would try

WA State DOL Title Services unit at 360-902-3803



Sometimes people will buy and register a dual sport for orv use only...... When you want to get it retitled for street you may open up a can of worms.....



You could pick up a tw200 brochure at a dealer and take it back to the dmv with you.





It sucks that you have now been dropped into the following category ......



No off-road classified vehicle can be altered to become street legal in Washington State.



A manufacturer must certify that the vehicle meets the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) for street use in order for a vehicle to be licensed for street use in Washington State.



Therefore, no off-road classified vehicle will be reclassified as street legal or licensed for street use unless the manufacturer issues a new Statement of Origin (or something similar) stating the vehicle meets FMVSS for operation on public roadways.






When I went in to license my street legal 1972 rv90 I brought down from Alaska it almost got the orv mark of doom, but I brought a bunch of literature and pics with me I printed off the net that swayed the dmv lady to give me a plate.







For fun try the Yamaha Vin Decoder



http://www.motoverse.../vin/yamaha.asp





Mine came back....

Manufactured in:Japan

Year:2009

Make:Yamaha

Model:TW200E

Body style:Enduro

Drive type:RWD

Cylinders:1 Cylinders
 

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At this point the people in Olympia have told the DOL lady to give me a referral to the state patrol inspection station to get it straightened out because the title is incorrect. After the inspection I will be able to get the new title issued with the correct info on it. My appointment is for Thursday afternoon and i expect there to be no glitches. Just in case I did a thorough inspection of all the necessary items to verify all lights are good and the horn works and the brakes are properly adjusted, etc. I'll let you know isf anything comes up otherwise.
 

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At this point the people in Olympia have told the DOL lady to give me a referral to the state patrol inspection station to get it straightened out because the title is incorrect. After the inspection I will be able to get the new title issued with the correct info on it. My appointment is for Thursday afternoon and i expect there to be no glitches. Just in case I did a thorough inspection of all the necessary items to verify all lights are good and the horn works and the brakes are properly adjusted, etc. I'll let you know isf anything comes up otherwise.


I think you will be ok. It's most likely a previous owner said or did something to get the bike misclassified.



I have had to go to the State Patrol several times to have various vehicles inspected and they are pretty good about it. Make sure you take all paperwork associated with the bike. The are going to run the VIN number through their database and inspect it for all the required equipment and ask you some questions regarding the acquisition of the bike.



Good Luck, Let us know how it turns out.



Rich made some good points.



Also up until 2000/2001 it was possible to modify an off-road bike to street legal provided certain modifications were complied with and the State Patrol inspected the bike and bought off on the conversion. Since 2001 in WA there has been a change in policy due to Federal Standards of Emissions, the regulation of VIN numbers, equipment requirements, etc.







This is from the Dept of Licensing and Rich already pointed out much of this:



How can I tell if a motorcycle is certified for street use and can be licensed as a motorcycle?



Motorcycles certified for highway use are required by federal law to have a permanent label attached by the manufacturer indicating that the motorcycle is compliant with the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and the federal Environmental Protection Agency’s emissions standards for highway use.



In addition, off- road motorcycles often have the words “off-road use only” or a similar message stamped into the frame of the motorcycle. This type of message also is generally found in the owner’s manual for these types of motorcycles, on stickers applied to the rear fenders.



Under Washington Administrative Code (308-56A-110), Manufacturer’s Statements/Certificates of Origin are required to state that a vehicle is not manufactured for road use, if applicable. We have learned some manufacturers are out of compliance with this requirement. DOL continues to work with these manufacturers to bring them into compliance.





Mike
 

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WA State Patrol VIN inspection today.

The trooper looked at the VIN on both the frame and the engine serial number -- did no equipment check -- went back to computer and within minutes returned with papers to go get street legal title designation. He said the VIN tells the deal. (for now)

Still had a minor hassle with the DOL. Lady at the counter was knowledgable and wanting to rectify the problem, but state computer system won't allow an override without specific direction from Olympia. The person in Olympia was less eager to understand/assist/fix the problem, but eventually it was cleared up and I am now ready to go.



The moral of the story is that if you ever want to register a dualsport bike in WA, MAKE SURE you do all the paperwork as a street legal onroad machine BEFORE getting ORV tags because it appears that at some point one of the previous owners had it titled and registered with just an ORV designation and so the paperwork got screwed up. Make sure the title is for the D/S and then just get an offroad registration, but DO NOT let them title it as "not eligible for road use" because (as the lady said) the state is really cracking down and it may eventually become impossible to undo such a designation.
 

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You made some very good points. I am glad that you got it straightened out.
 

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Gald you got it straightened out. It pays to be nice to the goobermint goobers--they can be helpful when they want to be. Ride safe!
 
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