[Stromper]

two times today I think the front wheel first got loose.



Perhaps I over corrected



Then it bit and the bike turned real hard



Next thing I know I am face planted in a mud puddle.



Unusual in my experience as usually on other bikes it just washes out and you low side



Anybody else ?

 

[bcscammell]

two times today I think the front wheel first got loose.



Perhaps I over corrected



Then it bit and the bike turned real hard



Next thing I know I am face planted in a mud puddle.



Unusual in my experience as usually on other bikes it just washes out and you low side



Anybody else ?

I've experienced exactly the same thing. Too much torque at the rear raises the front with great ease, when it comes back to earth you're done. The only solution is to lean out your carb by plugging the main jet and removing the needle all together. Replace the rear sprocket with an after market 10 tooth. This should reduce

the massive wheel lifting torque to a managable level and you should still be able to cruise at 95 mph uphill.

 

[n2o2diver]

Gravity, it's a real bitch!

 

[Stromper]

Losing the snarky



You would say that the size and traction of the rear tire over

power the front.



Where as a conventional dirt bike the rear would spin out first and create a slide or low side

The big rear here bites in and start the front slipping and/or lock up

Down you go.



So put more weight over the front?

Hold it down the front and lighten the rear.



Any thoughts discuss ?

 

[bcscammell]

Losing the snarky

Sorry, it was the first thing that came to mind. Seriously though, I have actually pondered this and have decided in my case that it happens because of the way I ride. I tend to stay a little rearward on the seat even when cornering. Maybe because I'm a little long for the bike or because I saw no need to crowd the tank as I didn't want the back end to slide out, even though it would put more weight on the front and possibly keep it from getting loose.

 

[JagLite]

What front tire are you using?

That makes a huge difference.

 

[xdac]

Throttle out of it...body position...lean with your body not the bike...get a decent front tire....you dont loose points for putting your foot down either

 

[Stromper]

Bike is 08 stock including tires



My prattle is that I think I still have my old dirt bike instincts and they let me down

or the TW fat tires etc. react differently

 

[mhomadness]

Your dirt bike instincts probably played a role. Most dirt bike riders are going like hell through these slippery spots, and when I've tried to keep up with them, being a rider who has always preferred the low & slow, I end up sliding all over the place if I’m not careful. I tend to ride forward, close to the tank, but everyone has their own style. Jaglite & Xdac have a good point too, many members say ditch the stock tires, they are poor performers. This is something I intend to do on my own TW. Get back on that horse! m.

 

[Gerry]

Think you will hear this from more than a few folks; the front tire is pretty marginal in the dirt. I ditched my after a little over 1000 miles. Mine would twitch and slide and seemed to have a mind of it's own. I found myself with a mouth full of dirt on a couple of occasions, and I was tearing it up at about 15 mph. Consider a new tire, I suspect you will be given so good advice. Gerry