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I got the bug about 6 months ago when I saw a particularly well-restored example of the classic Honda Trail 90 for sale on the local craigslist. I didn't buy it, but someone else promptly did and I think I know why.



A lot of people have a ton of fun on these bikes, and with the stupid low entry price for running specimens they're hard to resist. I'd love to have another mount in the stable just because, and a classic bike like the CT90 would fit in pretty well with my current line-up. I hated having a "classic" 4x4 as my only fun vehicle way back when, but I'm at a level of technical confidence and currently running vehicles where a challenging classic seems fun again, and down time isn't really a factor.



For a while longer I have a rapidly depreciating 2012 KLR650 street queen tearing the crotches out of my jeans. I was originally looking for a more sporty-street type bike to complement the TW200, but the wife started riding my TW and we decided I should get something better to ride the FS roads together on. One bloody crash and a few close calls later, she decides motorcycling isn't for her. Meanwhile, I've been thrashing the TW like a guy who has another bike to ride to work and the fun I've been having has my old lady re-thinking her 2 wheel aversion.



Once the economics equal out with the ergonomics, I'll be trading the KLR in for something with slicker tires, but the CT90 question has nothing to do with that.



Let me be clear, I'd be buying the CT90 as a fun 3rd bike for me. If the lack of a clutch suckers the little woman back into riding that would just be a cool bonus. I would see the CT90 like I see my TW, a bike that has achieved near perfection as a classic machine in its own right that deserves to be maintained and enjoyed for what it is. They're cool little bikes, and what harm could come from joining a second cult once you already belong to one?



Please, bail me out or tip me overboard on this one!
 

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Go for it! Like you said the price of admission is low. I've never owned a CT90, but I have two CT70's, and they're a blast to putt around on. There's a thread on advrider.com right now of a bunch of guys doing the TAT on CT90's. You've probably read about the guy who rode his from Australia to England. Fun, capable little bikes as long as you're not in a hurry. I think a CT90 would be ideal for your wife to learn on. That's got to be the perfect excuse to get one, right?
 

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can't help you.... i have a '79.



 

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A common thing being done around here is buying Honda Cubs, Passports, or anything with this sort of engine layout and sticking Lifan, Chinese 125cc engines into them. Those Chinese engines are about $280 dollars shipped to your door and they are really torquey for their size. A 100 dollar titled Passport with a Lifan engine goes nearly 60 mph.



I think my friend has about 100 dollars into this 'build'









It's surprisingly fast and reliable. He's got trials tires on it and it'll go almost anywhere my TW goes.
 

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I say go for it. I have 2 CT110's a 1983 & a 1984 & they are a lot of fun to ride around. Ultra reliable & parts are easy to come by too:).
 

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If you guys are interested in CT90's, I have two of them for sale. Low miles, always stored inside.

Mel
 

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Never ridden one but alot of guys around indiana on advrider have them and they love them. They have rides around here just for the super small bikes like that. I'd say give it a go!
 

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I've owned 3 CT90's in the past but was unable to find the parts on them that are apparently made out of gold.


What has happened with CT values is the existence of those Chinese parts and motors. Lots of them sat broken in garages for 30 years due to the cost of repairing them with Honda parts. Back when CT's were a dime a dozen a lot of people didn't consider them worth fixing. Now you can pop a shiny new motor in one for a couple of hundred bucks and have the fully street legal small displacement dualsport that no one will send us because they don't think we'll buy them. Supply and demand. When you can't anything that does what a CT does new, prices on the old ones go up.



You can probably thank China for re-establishing demand for smaller bikes in this country, as well. Their knockoffs suck for the most part but they won't always, and Japan better get on the stick fast. Remember when Jap=Junk? None of you youngsters probably can, but it didn't stay that way for long.



Looks like Honda has wised up and made the investment to get them cleared for emissions in the U.S. and Europe and may get another 60 years out of the same basic motor My local dealer is taking orders for the new Grom and I figger there will be a "CT-like" version of it to follow, unless they've lost their minds.



I won't be buying a new one, but we're saving up for two old CT's. One for me to ugly up (gotta be O.D. green) and a nice one for her, which I'll never be allowed to touch.
 

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Just a feeling. No telling what their marketing guys drink for lunch these days.



They're marketing the Grom to cityfolk. Once the Grom cracks a few spines on city potholes with those silly 12 inch wheels at the 60+ mph they claim the bike is capable of.....
 

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I rode a CT90 in the early 90s and had a blast on it. Then I looked at another around 2000 after I was out of college and it was SO SLOW and boring.



But now that we're hopping them up with Lifan engines, they're fun again. You can wheelie like none other with a Lifan engine jammed in there as opposed to the automatic 3 speed or whatever they had. Clutch wins




Prices are all over the place. Oldsters and baby boomers think they're worth 2500 dollars, but if you can find the right garage sale, you can drag them home for 50 dollars with the original titles.



Just like any vintage Japanese stuff right now. Prices are so ridiculous for Honda CB750, CB550, CB350 bikes that I've started focusing on finding vintage Italian and German bikes because the price gap is getting closed.



Meanwhile all of my friends are riding around on CB750 and CB550s that they paid under 300 dollars for. It's a crap shoot and if you beat the right bushes something will shake out. They made a TON of these bikes.
 

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I'd do it, what's the worse that can happen? I'd like a Honda mini-trail. Any of those early bikes are a blast. Is it only the TW that started in the past, stayed in the past, and made it to the future? OM
 

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That's a sweet looking little bike Joe!



I'd love to have one like that but just cannot bring myself to pay what people are asking for theirs, even though most are clapped out rustbuckets. I've owned 3 CT90's in the past but was unable to find the parts on them that are apparently made out of gold.


thanks brian. i actually bought it first, looking for what i knew. the woman i got it from ($850) also had this weird rainbow colored fuggly thing with a huge rear tire... a year later she called me wanting to sell it too, and the rest is history still being made.
 

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thanks brian. i actually bought it first, looking for what i knew. the woman i got it from ($850) also had this weird rainbow colored fuggly thing with a huge rear tire... a year later she called me wanting to sell it too, and the rest is history still being made.
Hey Joe,



$850 is about the upper limit of what a nice clean CT90 like yours would be worth to me (hint, hint, that's an lowball offer
), unfortunately most guys with bikes in that condition are asking between $2,000 and $3,000.



By the way, I am just about at my limit of weird colored, fuggly bikes with huge rear tires (although I am always looking for a great deal if it happens to come along).



What do you use your CT90 for, does it get ridden much?



Brian
 

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well it's arguably the most successful motorized vehicle ever made and therefore a fascinating human artifact if nothing else. and it looks like it would be fun to ride too
 

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Well, you guys are all a bad influence!




And joe band, wow what a cherry CT90! Sounds like you got a pretty good deal on it too. I would also like to hear how much you ride it and what kind of riding you use it for.



As stated above, the price on these things really does seem to be all over the place. I'm even seeing a couple of basket cases with asking prices close to what joe paid for that beauty of his.



I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a bargain.
 

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If you think the TW is a cult bike hold onto yer hat.



In the process of trying to get up to speed on the CT90's I joined a couple of online sites. Never had so much email in my life.
 
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