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I posted a while ago about dentists sometimes being "factually challenged". Well here's another example of a shark attack.

Last week there was an ad locally here on Craigslist for a TW200.. It was being sold from a local business that re-sells motorcycles and ATV's. I think it was a late 90's model if I remember right (it did have a kick start on it). They wanted $2,300.00 for the bike. The Ad said the bike only had about 350 miles on it. The ad showed a picture of the speedometer with the stated mileage. I'm not in the market for another bike but I was driving by and stopped in to take a look anyway. As it turns out, the bike had just sold. But here's the deal; It should have been clear to anyone with eye's in their head that the only thing on that bike with 350 miles was the speedometer. The bike itself clearly had many thousands of miles on it (mine has 15,000. and it looks less used then this TW did). The tires were worn out, and based on wear marks all over the frame and engine, I think that set of tires might not have been the first set that came with the machine.

This got me wondering just how much effort it takes to disable or replace the speedometer on the TW200?
 

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The mileage was one of those "alternate facts" we hear about in politics these days. All one has to claim is that "odometer reads only 350 miles" and the average consumer will hear "bike has only 350 miles". Everyone should take RDW shopping with them due to her sharp eye for detail.
Used speedo's can be purchased, some already may be pre-rolled back.:D1987 Yamaha Trailway Tw200 Speedometer Gauges 675 Mi Tw 200
 

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Someone can just buy a new speedo from any Yamaha dealer - O miles.

When I worked for Victory Motorcycles, a dealer would needed to fill out an "official" mileage form when replacing a speedo and send it in with the old / broken speedo. Other than that, no one tracks the mileage except for the title transfers.

If you have the TW VIN #, you can call Yamaha and check the registration / warranty history to see if mileage was recorded in the Yamaha system.
 

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This got me wondering just how much effort it takes to disable or replace the speedometer on the TW200?
Disabling is easy, just unhook the cable, but I would want to know every mile I've went though, bragging rights on the forum!:D
 

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"Everyone should take RDW shopping with them due to her sharp eye for detail"

Umm, fred... that would be "his" sharp eye.

And no, it should have been obvious to anyone
That was just Fred's example of alternate facts. I tried to alert people... lol
 

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people crack me up. I take great care to make sure all miles get recorded. I earned every one of them and sit here to tell about it. My tw will hit 20k this year in moab and im excited about it. I have no intention to try and roll back miles on anything I own. At 20k its in better shape than most with a few thousand. Not because I baby it, but because I maintain it very well.
 

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.....................but I would want to know every mile I've went though, bragging rights on the forum!:D
Yep! I love saying "32,000 trouble free fun miles". (Actually more than 32K but I am to lazy and it is to cold to go look.)

More than 30K on the chain and the front sprocket is nearly worn out. I could replace the sprocket..........but I am not sure it is worth the effort without replacing the chain too.
 

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When I bought my bike - a 2015 with 25 miles, I was skeptical that someone had it in their possession for a year and only took it out once. But, the tires were stock and still had the strip and "rubber hairs" Also when I took it for a ride you could smell the engine paint still curing. Truly was brand new. But...
Years ago I went and looked at a Corvette that was for sale - it only had 21,000 miles on it - I called BS because the brake pedal and accelerator pedal were very worn along with the tires seats etc.....buyer beware!
 

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Here in Calif you can not bring an out of state bike in with less than 8000 miles on it.

I purchased a 2003 Tdub that was out of state. Cal DMV requires out of state bikes that are not CARB (Calif. Air Resources Board) compliant to have over 8,000 miles on it (Mafia ). The owner explained that the reason the speedo had 8100 miles on it. The tires were orig and dry. Previous owner said the bike had less than 2,000 mi on it. The speedo was hacked and was inop but it passed for registration. The Dub was used to run.....Weed out of the mountains where it was grown..hahahaaa

The destroyed the needle mechanism which was needless if one understands how to take the speedo apart to reset, alter the mileage.

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Now that's a good story. A weed running t-dub. Now I know why LT has a fast 87'. ...!


Here in Calif you can not bring an out of state bike in with less than 8000 miles on it.

I purchased a 2003 Tdub that was out of state. Cal DMV requires out of state bikes that are not CARB (Calif. Air Resources Board) compliant to have over 8,000 miles on it (Mafia ). The owner explained that the reason the speedo had 8100 miles on it. The tires were orig and dry. Previous owner said the bike had less than 2,000 mi on it. The speedo was hacked and was inop but it passed for registration. The Dub was used to run.....Weed out of the mountains where it was grown..hahahaaa

The destroyed the needle mechanism which was needless if one understands how to take the speedo apart to reset, alter the mileage.

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In the KTM riding days I didn't have a speedometer but it did have a mile counter up to 99.9 miles then start over at 0 again. I think that their were 15 marks in the wood of the old shop door where I would "record" my mileage back then. I love knowing what the mileage is on a machine if it belongs to me.
 

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Now that's a good story. A weed running t-dub. Now I know why LT has a fast 87'. ...!
Cant believe it, this is a commercially made TW200 seat cover:
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I'm not sure why but most of the used TW's I looked at last year had the original tires. Or at least the date codes were in the year of manufacture.
Turning back odometers used to be a bigger problems but I think the digital age both in the dash and online, carfax, registrations, etc.

I always like the sellers who say "yeah, the speedo and odo just stopped working the other day, so the mileage is still pretty close to actual".
 
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