[nihil]

Am I the only one drooling over this bike? I've been shopping around for something larger than my beloved TW so I can do a bit more highway. Currently at the top of my list is the tried and true DR650, but second half of 2020 I could see trading it in on the Tenere 700.

https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/adventure-touring/models/tenere-700

689cc, fuel injected, 6speed, dead sexy

 

[YamTW87]

You can also look for a Yamaha XT660Z Ténéré(year 2008-->).
It has one of the most reliable engines Yamaha ever made.
But if you are located in the US it will difficult to find one.

 

[nihil]

That too is a good looking bike, and definitely in the ballpark for what I'm after. But I am indeed in the US, so finding one is probably not in the cards, and even if I could find one, getting it titled/registered would be a pain in the ass, if even possible.

I love the TW, and it will probably be the last bike I get rid of if I have to get rid of any at all, but I need to extend my long distance and highway capabilities a bit and it's just not up to the task. Historically I've gone either full dirt or full street with my bikes, but I'm really liking the dual-sport/enduro stuff these days.

 

[Dryden-Tdub]

That too is a good looking bike, and definitely in the ballpark for what I'm after. But I am indeed in the US, so finding one is probably not in the cards, and even if I could find one, getting it titled/registered would be a pain in the ass, if even possible.

I love the TW, and it will probably be the last bike I get rid of if I have to get rid of any at all, but I need to extend my long distance and highway capabilities a bit and it's just not up to the task. Historically I've gone either full dirt or full street with my bikes, but I'm really liking the dual-sport/enduro stuff these days.

You owe it to yourself to at least LOOK at a 2019 Honda CB500X.......



Tom

 

[nihil]

You owe it to yourself to at least LOOK at a 2019 Honda CB500X.......

Tom

I did briefly eyeball those, but it looks to be the historically CB street based commuter. At 20lbs lighter and 200cc's gruntier, I'd sooner go with an FZ-07 for that role. The bulk of my riding is unfortunately on the street, but when I get where I'm going it'll end up axle-deep in mud/sand along the river, or plodding through single track goodness in the woods.

Ideally I'd like something around 340-380lbs or so, 500-600cc in displacement, 6-7sp trans, good clearance but low enough seat so I can swing my aging legs over it, and brilliant as both a twisty road scalpel and off-road sledgehammer. Being pretty wouldn't hurt.

 

[Dryden-Tdub]

I did briefly eyeball those, but it looks to be the historically CB street based commuter. At 20lbs lighter and 200cc's gruntier, I'd sooner go with an FZ-07 for that role. The bulk of my riding is unfortunately on the street, but when I get where I'm going it'll end up axle-deep in mud/sand along the river, or plodding through single track goodness in the woods.

Ideally I'd like something around 340-380lbs or so, 500-600cc in displacement, 6-7sp trans, good clearance but low enough seat so I can swing my aging legs over it, and brilliant as both a twisty road scalpel and off-road sledgehammer. Being pretty wouldn't hurt.

You really need to look again! Some nice updates to the 2019. More than capable off road at slower speeds.


Tom

 

[nihil]

You really need to look again! Some nice updates to the 2019. More than capable off road at slower speeds.


Tom

This one, no?
2019 CB500X Overview - Honda Powersports

I'd rip that exhaust right off on the first log.

 

[Dryden-Tdub]

This one, no?
2019 CB500X Overview - Honda Powersports

I'd rip that exhaust right off on the first log.

Not with this!


https://adventuremotorcyclinghandbook.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/plates.jpg


Tom

 

[nihil]

Looks decent enough, but how much clearance does that eat up? They haven't listed pricing for the 2019, but the 2018 is at the exact same spot at the DR650, and between the two I'd say the DR has much better off-road ergonomics, and is also 50lbs lighter with 170cc more displacement. Granted there's the whole 2cyl vs. thumper smoothness to consider, and EFI vs. carb, but then there's the part where the DR has been pretty much the same design for many years with a lot of trusted miles and proven reliability, where the CB looks to be a more recent redesign. Granted I've never owned a Honda bike, so I don't know much about them.

 

[Dryden-Tdub]

Looks decent enough, but how much clearance does that eat up? They haven't listed pricing for the 2019, but the 2018 is at the exact same spot at the DR650, and between the two I'd say the DR has much better off-road ergonomics, and is also 50lbs lighter with 170cc more displacement. Granted there's the whole 2cyl vs. thumper smoothness to consider, and EFI vs. carb, but then there's the part where the DR has been pretty much the same design for many years with a lot of trusted miles and proven reliability, where the CB looks to be a more recent redesign. Granted I've never owned a Honda bike, so I don't know much about them.

I own the 2018. There is not a lot of ground clearance compared to the DR650 but it actually males more HP than the Suzuki. If you MOSTLY want to ride off-road then get the DR. If you want something you can tour on plus ride off-road in a mild mannered way then it's all Honda.


Tom

 

[YamTW87]

The Honda CRF450L and Rally(upcoming) seem promising too, but pretty expensive for road legal 450.....

 

[Chip]

The Honda CRF450L and Rally(upcoming) seem promising too, but pretty expensive for road legal 450.....

I agree 100%. $10400 for a stupid 450 dual sport is absolutely ridiculous. Lots of better options for that much coin. Could buy 2 "slightly" used 650's for that. Heck I'd buy a Africa Twin before a 450 for 10k.

 

[ejfranz]

Check out the maintenance schedule for the CRF450L and you will most likely change your mind on getting it. More like a KTM than a Honda.

The Tenere looks sweet, but my Wee does OK.

 

[phogroian]

Any word on whether they have kept the Tenere 700 (689) to 400 pounds? If it's 450 lbs, that's a pity.

 

[jb882]

They haven't listed the weight yet.. I do hope that they can keep it under 400, i don't see any reason why they cant. My 2011 Multistrada 1200 was right around 420# dry and under 450 wet weight when it was new and after i pitched the factory exhaust its well under 450# with a full tank and ready to ride. When i bought it i test rose a 1200 Tenere and i thought it was a heavy pig in comparison and it is at almost 600#.

If Yamaha does this 700 right they are going to sell a lot of them.

 

[nihil]

For those looking to go a bit smaller, Honda has a couple prototypes (CB125X and CB125M) that look like a lot of fun.

Interview states 15HP around the 300lb mark. All it needs is a big fat rear tire.

2020 Honda Motorcycles Released: SuperMoto & Adventure CB Models @ EICMA

 

[nihil]

So, having been on the waiting list at every dealership within 400mi since it was announced as available to the North American market, then waiting through the supply chain misery of the post-apocalyptic consumer landscape, I was finally able to place a deposit on a T7. It's black and it should be here in August.

Life in the before-times was a lot easier and cheaper.

 

[ejfranz]

So, having been on the waiting list at every dealership within 400mi since it was announced as available to the North American market, then waiting through the supply chain misery of the post-apocalyptic consumer landscape, I was finally able to place a deposit on a T7. It's black and it should be here in August.

Life in the before-times was a lot easier and cheaper.

I am see more used ones popping up for sale.
I bought mine used with many modifications.

 

[nihil]

I am see more used ones popping up for sale.
I bought mine used with many modifications.

Not around here man. I would have had more of a chance of finding sasquatch than a new or used T7 around here for the past few years. On one hand the excitement was worn off before I managed to get a line on one, but on the other if it has been this long and I still want one it's probably not another motorized impulse buy.

After 30+ cars, maybe a dozen bikes, and a couple boats, this will be my first ever brand new vehicle of any sort.

 

[Loghousenut]

Not around here man. I would have had more of a chance of finding sasquatch than a new or used T7 around here for the past few years. On one hand the excitement was worn off before I managed to get a line on one, but on the other if it has been this long and I still want one it's probably not another motorized impulse buy.

After 30+ cars, maybe a dozen bikes, and a couple boats, this will be my first ever brand new vehicle of any sort.

You are a wise man.

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