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I like reading this forum and the various topics that get raised.
Yesterday a member of the forum raised the question of how to make his TW go faster.
I chimed in with a comment asking simply :"Why?"
I was not being sarcastic with that question but I am a bit amazed that anyone choosing to own a 200 cc machine would be very interested in more power and potentially more speed.

I just re-read the posting and started wondering how many of us are still interested in speed? I have ridden at speeds of three digits a couple of times in my 54 years of riding but mostly those times were a lot of years ago. Today I am totally satisfied with just riding - speed , with tears forming in my eyes and cheeks pulling back in the air blast are conditions I no longer relish and no longer attain.

Engine tuning yes because the quiet puttering of the TW engine is a delight. Comfort in riding yes because that makes the ride more pleasant. Better tires, yes; better lighting, yes; hand guards, yes; but speed? What for.

If I want to go fast and frightening - I will not start with a TW.
If I want to go slow and enjoyable - give me a TW anytime.

How say you - are you into fast riding or gentle riding?
 

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Many of us have other, faster steeds, but it seems that day in and day out we prefer the quiet moseying around on our Dubs. Sure is a good fit for me..

Happy New Year everyone.

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Believe me, to get 250000 miles on two wheels, a lot of it was at "SPEED". Fortunately I no longer need tears in my eyes, my clothes being pulled at, and the burn of the wind. It just enforces why I really enjoy my TW's, with their forgiveness of lack of attention while I am looking around and enjoying the scenery, or not paying attention to the road surface. I do still have my GL1500 but it gets used less and less all the time.
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As with all of these "More Speed" questions from a TW, I have to wonder just how expensive each extra mile per hour you can get actually costs? I do love reading all the build up threads where they redesign the engine jug and cut the case to stuff a bigger piston in and then they find new carbs to retrofit but at what cost per mile per hour gained? I sure do understand guys who love wrenching and making their bikes better than before and love those who have the skills and machinery to do amazing upgrades but they are few and far between.

In my woodworking business I have had many customers want me to make cheap pine look like expensive oak and as hard as I might try it is always cheaper to just buy the oak to begin with.

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When I must get from point A to B in minimal time, I ride my cruiser. I started riding in 2012. The speed limit works for me. I am almost 17 years past Jack Benny's age, and riding safe to ride again is how I travel.

When I am out for a Ride, the T-Dub is my steed. No hurry, no worry, I am out having fun. Dirt, gravel, pavement, I enjoy it all. On either bike, the road less traveled is my favorite route.

I want the smooth running engine, the most power possible too - but for fuel economy, not speed. The better tuned, the more HP, the better fuel economy -- with sensible throttle use. I mostly look for tuning ideas that deal with the stock TW. I want to take advantage of MrBracket's carb research, but the rest of my farkles will be for my tastes and comfort.

When I feel the need for speed, I'll tke the cruiser.
 
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I enjoy the spirit of someone who, instead of asking "why?" Asks "why not?" An awful lot of useful things get invented that way!! It's a very American concept!! I like the diversity of creative thought... And TW is a great platform for such a thinker/tinker. My goals and everyone else's goals don't have to coincide down to the minute... We're all finding ways to make the bike work for us... And using a pool of corporate knowledge is a smart way to get a whack at it.
 

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I think Speed is more of an issue for those of us who ride in metropolitan areas.
When off road, I realize I'm never really wanting for more.
When I'm merging onto a highway, or have a crazy cabbie behind me, I need more.....

When I got my TW it was stock and not very fast.
I modified with a 42t sprocket, open k&n, 132.5 jet and an Fmf Pipe. Its still not fast, but it does cruise at speed better.


 

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Not really into going particularly fast, I like 2 wheelers more for the fun of it & the feeling of freedom, it's nice to ride with the visor up & feel the wind in your face. I like the convenience of finding a parking space easier, & being able to get through traffic snarl ups (without taking too many risks)
I guess being on the bike reminds me too of my horse riding days (but considerably less maintenance involved)
Many a time i've taken TW rather than my truck even if it's cold or raining, & on the occasions where i've thought 'I can't be bothered getting wet through today' & took 4 wheels & then the weather clears up for the journey home i've felt really mad with myself
So for me it's not about getting there fast, i'd rather get there safe & just enjoy the ride with a big smile on my face :)
 

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I like the thought of doing more with less, I had been searching for a fun bike for a long time and in the process went through a lot of bikes, from a v65 mangna to a v45 saber,750 phaser,cx 500,kz 400 at this time I was not getting out of them what I wanted (fun) so I started buying duel sports along with them, xt 250,xl 185,klr 250,xt 600, cl350 scrambler, I still was not satisfied.There is a lot more bikes in there but to many to list them all. So what I ended up with recently was my current stable..I got the xl 500 and the tl's before I found the tw. I was never happy with any of them for long. Then came the little tw and everything changed I found my bike soul mate. I have put 500 miles on this in the last month alone, more miles than any other of my bikes in that short of time. I have customized the tw to my liking and have been having a blast on this bike. I finally found the bike that gives me the fun I was looking for and now in the process of selling off all of my other bikes.(to buy 2 more tw's) well that's my story and so far, I have no thoughts of ever getting rid of my little tw. 20131230_162610.jpg
 

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To me the TW is a 2 wheeled atv that goes about anywhere with very little effort. I very rarely ride the sv anymore. Its hard for me to ride it slow. It feels like 85mph is about perfect for cruising and that will get me in trouble. I grew up riding motorcross bikes and fast atv's. When I ride the TW I look around and soak up the scenery. I took the sv many times down to the deals gap "dragons tail" area and there are very few things I rememver seeing besides corners at high speeds and guys wrecking. Dont get me wrong it was a blast but now I enjoy the slower bike. It really upsets big bikes when you keep up with them on the tdub. So do I still have the urge to go fast now and then sure but not like I used to. If I could only have one motorized toy it would be the TW.
 

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You raise a great point Small's! My hunting club has almost 3,000 acres and I keep hearing guys say there are very few deer left. On the contrary, I see deer all the time while riding the old logging trails. I kept telling them there are plenty of deer and one day they said prove it and show us where you see all "These" deer. We took off on our ATVs and with my UTV in the lead. We didn't get more than a few hundred yards and I pointed out 3 deer on the left and another on the right. They all blasted off in front of me and when I caught up to them at a pre arranged spot they said they didn't see any other deer. I drove the exact same trails behind them and saw over a dozen more. I was just putting along and looking in to the woods right and left while they had the hammer down and could only pay attention to what is in front of them.

On the TW is get to see and find all sorts of old trails I was always missing when I was blasting along either in a car, in my RZR or on my TW. Slowing down allows us the freedom to look around and enjoy the scenery and you might even detect some nice old over grown trails you may never have noticed before.

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A bit of history might add to this thread
In 1978 I was running back and forth between Saskatoon and Regina Saskatchewan. It was a distance of about 170 odd miles mostly running in a south easterly direction.
At that time I was riding both a Honda 550F - four cylinder twin stick - plenty of grunt for running at 70-75 mph and a an odd looking 1968 Suzuki - variously referred to as a Huster or an X-6. It was a small machine of only 250 cc's but with a 6 speed transmission they had a reputation for being quite reliable and pretty quick for a 250.The Suzuki was odd because it was a so called Scrambler with high pipes and odd variant on the Hustler.
I was headed down on my X6. There was a strong wind from the north west and I curled into a tucked in position with my feet on the rear pegs and my body draped across the tank. I was holding a steady 73 or 74 mph.
Gradually I pulled up behind three guys on significantly higher cc engines but running a bit slower than I was. I swung into the passing lane with not acceleration and gradually passed them. When I was clear I was pleased to note that they picked up the pace and came into formation with me at my speed.
We rode like that for just over an hour which took us into the city. At the first stop light - the guy who was leading the group of three pulled up beside my X6 and asked how big it was.
I smiled and told him that it was a 250.
The look on his face told me two things - that I was a a poor liar and that my bike could not possibly have been running that fast.
I learned that day that engine size meant very little and that I was not needing to impress anyone when riding. Since that day I have paid very little attention to engine size and what other thought I should ride or was actually riding.
My TW is a perfect fit for my attitude and riding style. All the engine I need for the riding I do here without digging for more.
And yes I still have that Suzuki too.
 

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Pics of the Suzuki please~ :)
 

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Nice! Thank you! Love the ol classics.
 

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...or an X-6. It was a small machine of only 250 cc's but with a 6 speed transmission they had a reputation for being quite reliable and pretty quick for a 250....I learned that day that engine size meant very little and that I was not needing to impress anyone when riding. Since that day I have paid very little attention to engine size and what other thought I should ride or was actually riding.
My TW is a perfect fit for my attitude and riding style. All the engine I need for the riding I do here without digging for more.
And yes I still have that Suzuki too.
I had an X6 back in the day and loved it dearly. Light and quick. Wish I still had mine.

I have 4 other bikes, all 850 cc or over. Two are vintage (Commando and Airhead BMW) which have their own charms. One is a modern Triumph that looks and sounds like it's an old Triumph and one is a modern Triumph Triple that goes like crazy.

For a while I have been saying that if I got another bike it would be a light small displacement ride. ~2 weeks ago i got my 1990 TW. I'm too old to want to go flying off jumps motocross style but I used to enjoy mountain biking and look forward to some off road puttering around. Just completed my first service / check out of the machine. Only put about 250 miles on her so far, but I am loving my TW.
 

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I have a TW200 when I want to go slow, and a BMW 650GS when I want to go fast. Totally different bikes for totally different purposes. I'll never go over 65 on the TW, but I've been over 100 many times on the BMW. (not for more than 10 seconds!!!:p) We do still have some highways in Idaho where you can do that and not get a ticket! If I want to do a 300 mile loop on pavement, I'll take the Beemer. If I want to go on a 100 mile loop in the dirt, I'll take the TW. I couldn't think of a better combination of two machines! :cool:

But you are right, if I had to choose only one, it would be the TW!:D
 

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I do not do fast anymore. My first bike was a 1966 305 Honda. It would run 70 all day at about 7000 RPM and was red lined at 9000 RPM. It hit 12000 RPM a few times in the lower gears. Top speed was 100 by speedometer if you had about a 20 mile run. I then got a 66 Harley Sportster which I ran at the drag strip and abused badly. It would only run 115 by speedometer because of the gearing. I road it on dirt roads or sand roads in Florida. I now have a 1986 Harley Lower Rider which I still ride on dirt roads but not much after I got the TW. I have no idea how fast it will go because I like 55. I like the TW because it is easy to ride around town and anywhere I want to go. Now I have two TW one BW one CB750 and the Harley. I have had fast cars but now drive 1947 Ford and It is not fast. I like slow if I need to get there sooner I should have started earlier.
 
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