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Unfortunately no not on a 4 bolt hub but it fits through a 5 bolt hub. We built 2 of these and my buddy is running a 14 x 5.5 trailer rim. I still have to notch my rim but only about 3/8 of an inch maybe less.
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My buddy is doing a whole write up here is the link
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Another trailer wheel mod, 14" wheel
Edit: Drawings attached to this post. Another trailer wheel mod, 14" wheel Phew, that was a lot of work! One of my goals was to leave the stock wheel all in place with the original tire for long gravel/road trips (Canada is really wide) and not have to remount this tire on it. Also I wanted a...
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I figured that there must have been a connection between you and Chris. Congratulations to both of you!
You guys will have to compare the weights between the 12" and 14" wheel setups. If there isn't too much of a weight penalty with the 14" wheel, that could be a great option.
You guys will have to compare the weights between the 12" and 14" wheel setups. If there isn't too much of a weight penalty with the 14" wheel, that could be a great option.
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You have been my inspiration Brian, we have talked either here or elsewhere and you were very generous with sharing information and I appreciate that. So thank you.
I like the beef look of the 12, and I have a bunch kicking around. But I would like to upgrade to the bighorns next year and a bighorn 26x9x12 is still available. But it really seems like 14 is the way to go now. All tires are available in 14 and less being available in 12.
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Alright, it's my turn! The custom hub is in hand and fresh painted flat black, and I've already got an extra brake drum in my parts pile. The wheel bearings, seal, and spacer should all be on the way soon. Now the real questions left are the important ones! First is the trailer wheel itself. Is the 12" rim still the best way to go, or should I maybe consider a 14" rim? Is that even something that's been done by anyone here? The second is, of course, tire choice. I currently have been running a V1 Duro Power Grip on a factory wheel and I have been very pleased with it. I see that many people are choosing ATV tires with on-road performance being a consideration - this is no concern of mine! I'm looking for the most effective off-road tire in hard-packed and very rocky conditions. Any and all opinions are welcome and greatly appreciated!
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I saw on another thread someone mentioned that the selection of 14" tires had possibly improved over 12" options. Since I don't know anything about the ATV world, I wanted to ask the gang. I personally like the look of the 12" tire. And, I'm sure that 12" would also help over 14" with the rougher terrain that I enjoy so very much.
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I've been riding with a 12" conversion and find it to be an excellent setup. Have over 2,500 miles with the sunf 12 x 8 - 24. Has been problem free so far. Most others are putting on 25 and 26 dia tires.
BTW, I have found that installing the sprocket side double bearings first and then putting in the spacer and brake side bearing works best to make sure the brake plate to brake drum spacing works. Doing it the opposite sometimes causes the brake side bearing to be too deep and thus having the brake plate touch the drum. This will necessitate the need for a shim washer between the brake plate assembly and the bearing to get the gap correct.
BTW, I have found that installing the sprocket side double bearings first and then putting in the spacer and brake side bearing works best to make sure the brake plate to brake drum spacing works. Doing it the opposite sometimes causes the brake side bearing to be too deep and thus having the brake plate touch the drum. This will necessitate the need for a shim washer between the brake plate assembly and the bearing to get the gap correct.
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In the past the main reason for going with a 12" rim was a great selection of tires. With the stock rim being 14" at the time, we could only get a 26x9 tire which was pretty wide and didn't leave much room for chain adjustment because we had to set the tire so far back in the swingarm. With a 12" rim we're able to get a variety of tire sizes (widths and diameters, 24, 25 for example). 8" width gives so much more chain adjustability without swingarm concerns.
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I'm running a 25x10x12 on a 12 inch trailer rim. I also did a 2 inch swingarm extension. I've got about 200 miles maybe more on my conversion in very wet mucky mud or snow, ice and slush. I am very impressed with the conversion.
I went with a 12 inch rim because I had a full set of new factory tires from a SxS and wanted to use them. I also like the look of the big tire small rim. Mounted width of the 25x10x12 tire on the 4 inch wide trailer rim is 8 inches and it just fits without rubbing the chain.
So far the ATV tire is unstoppable, even when my front tire was so packed full of mud that it wouldn't turn, the ATV tire still kept pushing the TDub forward... crazy
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I went with a 12 inch rim because I had a full set of new factory tires from a SxS and wanted to use them. I also like the look of the big tire small rim. Mounted width of the 25x10x12 tire on the 4 inch wide trailer rim is 8 inches and it just fits without rubbing the chain.
So far the ATV tire is unstoppable, even when my front tire was so packed full of mud that it wouldn't turn, the ATV tire still kept pushing the TDub forward... crazy
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Reddave's comment about choosing an ATV tire for maximizing off-road performance vs on-road manners deserves a little discussion.
Nothing is perfect and what seems optimal for certain terrains may not do as well in other environments. Those deep lugs with a wide void ratio that do so well in mud can chunk and get torn more readily in rocky terrain than something like a Cerros. My experience is all do well but some will wear out quicker. Had this issue with an otherwise wonderfull TerraCross...nice rounded profile, good road manners, grabbed roots so much better than stock, impressive in snow, mud, sand, etc but those hard working lugs wore quickly on loose fractured angular rock.
Perhaps my original square shoulder Duro was a little better in snow and mud but current rounder profile DuroV2 has better cornering manners on pavement. Like Dave I focus on off-road riding but also enjoy the occasional tight twisty backroad with an ATV tire. I was practicing pushing hard here yesterday with a V2 lagging back then quickly catching up with higher cornering speeds than my 2 TrailWing equipped buddies simply fast cruising through the corners. No worries or concern, I felt secure and in control when leaned over. Nice in that the tire was also chewing snow, mud, rocks and spending some some freeway time on the previous day's hundred miler ride.
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On other end of spectrum are some mud tires with lugs over an inch tall. A brief spin on TW-Brian's Ripsaw(SP?) equiped TW seemed to transmit the sensation of slightly squirming tread blocks on pavement. Would get used to it I assume but might be initially reluctant to race on roads lie above.
Just me but I like the Swiss Army Knife nature of the dual purpose TW, doesn't excel in anything but still does it all good enough to justify the license and insurance as long as the ATV tire does not compromise my on-road fun and safety.
Nothing is perfect and what seems optimal for certain terrains may not do as well in other environments. Those deep lugs with a wide void ratio that do so well in mud can chunk and get torn more readily in rocky terrain than something like a Cerros. My experience is all do well but some will wear out quicker. Had this issue with an otherwise wonderfull TerraCross...nice rounded profile, good road manners, grabbed roots so much better than stock, impressive in snow, mud, sand, etc but those hard working lugs wore quickly on loose fractured angular rock.
Perhaps my original square shoulder Duro was a little better in snow and mud but current rounder profile DuroV2 has better cornering manners on pavement. Like Dave I focus on off-road riding but also enjoy the occasional tight twisty backroad with an ATV tire. I was practicing pushing hard here yesterday with a V2 lagging back then quickly catching up with higher cornering speeds than my 2 TrailWing equipped buddies simply fast cruising through the corners. No worries or concern, I felt secure and in control when leaned over. Nice in that the tire was also chewing snow, mud, rocks and spending some some freeway time on the previous day's hundred miler ride.
On other end of spectrum are some mud tires with lugs over an inch tall. A brief spin on TW-Brian's Ripsaw(SP?) equiped TW seemed to transmit the sensation of slightly squirming tread blocks on pavement. Would get used to it I assume but might be initially reluctant to race on roads lie above.
Just me but I like the Swiss Army Knife nature of the dual purpose TW, doesn't excel in anything but still does it all good enough to justify the license and insurance as long as the ATV tire does not compromise my on-road fun and safety.
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Thank you for your comments, Fred! The ultimate goal for me here is another set of wheels for my TW. I run the Shinko 241 upfront and TW34 rear tire with the factory 50T sprocket for general usage. When I'm hitting heavy-duty jeep trails I install a Duro Power Grip equipped wheel with a 70T. I want to be able to switch to off-road only rubber, so I'm on the lookout for another front wheel. That way I can run an M5B tire or something similar paired with the trailer wheel hub I am currently assembling. What started all of this was a member here giving me the Duro wheel setup for free a couple of years back. It's time to pay it forward - so, when the trailer wheel is all figured out I'll be passing that setup along to another CO rider. I guess that Tdubskid could use it, eh? I think he's earned it.
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Dave, since you have dedicated wheel/tire combos your Duro Power Grip may be a very good choice for 70 tooth tractor crawling up the Rockies. Mine lasted a very long time on mix of terrain that might resemble what you typically encounter in Colorado mountainous back country.
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That's a big 10-4, Fred! That Power Grip is absolutely wonderful - I honestly have zero complaints about it. I would just get another one by default but I have this curiosity problem... I have to try something else! So now I'm down in this ATV tire rabbit hole trying to climb out.
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Hard to argue with that Duro tread pattern! Whether it be the original Power Grip, a Bighorn 1, or any of the numerous clones their square shoulders seem more aggressive than their modern lighter more rounded counterparts. I thought mine was very impressive in late season crusty snow.
On the other hand my rounder profile DuroV2 does not seem to grab alternating sides of narrow MX ruts like the sidewalls of the original Duro Power Grip did. I no longer feel like a drunken sailor wandering from side to side. New V2 seems to settle in quicker, or at least the transitions seem less abrupt.
Still hard to argue with that Duro...
Maybe try different width/ height. A Duro 25X10X12 or a 27x8 x12 might fit. If not there are belt sanders and swing arm extensions
Either puts down an impressive footprint and may have others question just what made those tracks atop some mountain. Here is a 27x8x14 Duro V2 on spoke rim next to stock Trailwing on Mr.Gizmo. It would fill your fender nicely and your 70 tooth might handle the increased diameter well. And you could always air it down.
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On the other hand my rounder profile DuroV2 does not seem to grab alternating sides of narrow MX ruts like the sidewalls of the original Duro Power Grip did. I no longer feel like a drunken sailor wandering from side to side. New V2 seems to settle in quicker, or at least the transitions seem less abrupt.
Still hard to argue with that Duro...
Maybe try different width/ height. A Duro 25X10X12 or a 27x8 x12 might fit. If not there are belt sanders and swing arm extensions
Either puts down an impressive footprint and may have others question just what made those tracks atop some mountain. Here is a 27x8x14 Duro V2 on spoke rim next to stock Trailwing on Mr.Gizmo. It would fill your fender nicely and your 70 tooth might handle the increased diameter well. And you could always air it down.
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