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Hi, I'm new here and it looks like an interesting and well maintained site. Does anyone here have experience on both a TW200 and an XT250? I have been riding an XT for a couple of years now and I like the bike, but it seems to me that for the kind of riding I do which is mainly forest service roads and some single track, a TW might be a better machine for me. My interest is not in going fast, but more along the lines of back woods exploring. I also like camping off of a bike in remote places. Thanks for any help with this and if someone is interested in more details about an XT, let me know. I am though really curious about comparing the two machines.
 

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The XT is a better street bike. The TW is better for low speed woods exploring, particularly when sand and mud are involved.
 

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the TW is better on any surface, except paved high speed hiways ( 65 mph+). The XT is much better on hiways. Crosswind stability on the hiway is good.Better than my Honda silverwing scooter, but not as good as my Honda Rebel 250. Each bike has its good and bad points. Fuel consumption is as follows: TW=80-90mpg, Silverwing=50-57mpg, and Rebel 250=70-80mpg. If I could only have one bike, I would keep the TW. Due to its fun factor.I test ride a few XT's and was not impresed with it compared to the TW.
 

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The XT is faster and more powerful. This could be an issue with your comute to the woods. With the XT you have a better selection of knobby tires. The TW is unique and competent in most situations. I hate to disagree with Rodney but I find the TW to be treacherous in mud. I am sure some of the ATV tires are a big improvement over stock. I am not talking about mud bogs but the 1" to 4" stuff that you get when a trail or dirt road is wet. Skinny knobbies like the XT and my ridding buddies DR just cut right thru it to the solid ground underneath and they don't even slow down. My front wheel seems to slide around and I have to slow down and be very careful. The rear seems okay but the DR will get enough traction to wheelie in mud when I will spin. The few really deep holes I have been in the skinny tire advantage goes away and we seem even. I have never ridden a TW with ATV tires but it is reported to be a huge improvment.



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Thanks for the comments to my question. I should have known that this was a question asked here before. Sorry about asking it again.
 

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we all miss previous posts. there is plenty of great information in the archives but it never hurts to ask a previously answer question. i have found you gain a little more knowledge from each different post on a single subject. keep asking and let the answers flow.
 

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I'll bite. I've owned and ridden both.



I bought my wife a sweetheart of a XT225 last year. We only ride off road. My wife is not a great rider, but can get through most the California desert can throw at her, but at her own pace. She had been riding a BW200, and a TW200 of my dad's before I got her the XT. The suspension was ultra soft and comfortable on the XT. The riding position fit her better too. First time out on the XT she bit it crossing a wash. Second time out she was scared in the sand. The front end didn't track straight in deep sand at 15 miles an hour, and she rode in fear of death wobbles and stuffing the front tire in any kind of sand. I put a really big dirt tire on the xt for my third attempt, but she was still scared, so I got her a TW of her own. First time out on the TW she was riding in the dunes, and said she liked it. She probablly been fine on the XT had we ridden hard pack or stayed on hard roads, but were we ride the dirt is very soft and sand is all around.



If it were me I would ride the XT, but I feel comfortable ripping across soft terrain at 35mph which is what you need to do on a bike with skinny tires. The seat on the XT is like a recliner, mmm nice. If I had to ride 50 miles in the dirt, I'd rather be on the XT for the comfort and suspension.



To each his own. They are both great bikes.
 

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The stock front tire on a TW sucks on any surface. Put a good dualsport knobby on the front and you'll find it does just as well as a skinny tire all the time, and better much of the time.
 

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I'll bite. I've owned and ridden both.



I bought my wife a sweetheart of a XT225 last year. We only ride off road. My wife is not a great rider, but can get through most the California desert can throw at her, but at her own pace. She had been riding a BW200, and a TW200 of my dad's before I got her the XT. The suspension was ultra soft and comfortable on the XT. The riding position fit her better too. First time out on the XT she bit it crossing a wash. Second time out she was scared in the sand. The front end didn't track straight in deep sand at 15 miles an hour, and she rode in fear of death wobbles and stuffing the front tire in any kind of sand. I put a really big dirt tire on the xt for my third attempt, but she was still scared, so I got her a TW of her own. First time out on the TW she was riding in the dunes, and said she liked it. She probablly been fine on the XT had we ridden hard pack or stayed on hard roads, but were we ride the dirt is very soft and sand is all around.



If it were me I would ride the XT, but I feel comfortable ripping across soft terrain at 35mph which is what you need to do on a bike with skinny tires. The seat on the XT is like a recliner, mmm nice. If I had to ride 50 miles in the dirt, I'd rather be on the XT for the comfort and suspension.



To each his own. They are both great bikes.


The fast driving on soft terrain is what I am starting to feel uncomfortable with and I agree that it is the way to drive the XT. If I can find a good used TW I think I'll buy it and give it a try and then sell either the XT or TW depending on the one that fits the bill the best. Thanks for the detailed post.
 
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