Thanks Admiral, I intend on getting back on the bike and trying that same little hill again. And about the Treasure valley riders, I have been on this site for awhile looking and reading all I can to learn about mechanical and modification stuff for the TW. I am very impressed with what many of you members have done and continue to do on this site. Thanks for all the info. As for the rides this summer, once I get a little more proficient on the TW, I will definitely want to tag along. Thanks again. Smitty