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It was the GT750 that was nick name water buffalo. The wankle was an interesting idea.. They had a problem with seals etc. They were pushing about 100# of oil pressure.. (I think)OMM.
 

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I thought it was interesting when I ran across the article. I had forgotten about those bikes way back then. Cool part of history though. I know we have collectors out there. (Hi Smitty) I posted it so someone could scoop it up if they wanted it.:D
 

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LT and OMM are right about the GT750 being nicknamed the Water Buffalo. That was Suzuki's two stroke triple.

The Suzuki Wankel engined bike was a rotary engine....and NOT called the Water Buffalo.
Mike, was this bike super fast like the Kawasaki Mach 3's? ?
 

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Over here we referred to the Suzy GT750 as the 鈥淜ettle鈥 鈥 the RE5 was unworthy of a name.

A novel idea, but despite the simplicity of the Wankel engine design, Suzuki somehow managed to complicated it. Top speed was only 104mph, 鈥渟ub-par鈥 for the 750cc bikes of the day 鈥 the Kettle pulled 110+, and the Kawasaki 鈥淲idowmaker鈥, the KH750, a blistering 126mph.

Often seen on Ebay.co.uk 鈥 prices range between 拢2,500 to 拢6,500 鈥 these two remain unsold after several months 鈥︹︹︹

Suzuki RE5 RE 5 M Rotary Wankel 12,651 mls BARN FIND ride or restore. LAST ONE!! | eBay

SUZUKI RE5 1976, | eBay
 

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Over here we referred to the Suzy GT750 as the 鈥淜ettle鈥 鈥 the RE5 was unworthy of a name.

A novel idea, but despite the simplicity of the Wankel engine design, Suzuki somehow managed to complicated it. Top speed was only 104mph, 鈥渟ub-par鈥 for the 750cc bikes of the day 鈥 the Kettle pulled 110+, and the Kawasaki 鈥淲idowmaker鈥, the KH750, a blistering 126mph.

Often seen on Ebay.co.uk 鈥 prices range between 拢2,500 to 拢6,500 鈥 these two remain unsold after several months 鈥︹︹︹

Suzuki RE5 RE 5 M Rotary Wankel 12,651 mls BARN FIND ride or restore. LAST ONE!! | eBay

SUZUKI RE5 1976, | eBay
Thanks for the info Purple. I enjoyed reading the ads you posted. Back in the day, I had talked one of my friends, a new motorcycle rider into buying one of the new Kawasaki's. He got the 500cc little one. He was a little afraid of it though at first so I ended up riding us around on it sometimes. We were on a road trip coming back down through California north of San Francisco, now it may have been slightly downhill and with 2 riders, with some effort and several miles to loosen up the engine, we actually reached 136 MPH. I remember that trip well. I knew however that if we hit even a tiny tiny bad patch in the road or even hit a pebble, it was all over!! I don't ride like that any more, like TWilight does, probably every time he takes out his bikes!!! :eek: It was impressive that with 2 people, one of them being larger than large, that it could hit that speed, don't you think?
 

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No...the Suzuki GT750...water buffalo...was no where near as fast as the kawi Mach 3......which was not as fast as the kawi Mach 1.

The GT750 was overweight, and bulky. Hence....water buffalo.

And, for IronButt history buffs, the Suzuki RE5 wankel has been ridden in more than one IronButt Rally (11,000 miles in 11 days), which also happens to be going on right this minute.

Mike, I was talking about the Wankel.

I am aware of the Iron Butt Rally. Not sure if you have done one or not, can't remember if you have mentioned it before, but relatively sure if you haven't, it's the only one you haven't...yet. :D
 

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"'Ol Sparky" has done the Iron Butt - and got the paper work to prove it - though the attitude says more about the experience .....

However (another word for "nonetheless") ..............

The problem with the 500cc (and upwards) late 70鈥檚 early 80鈥檚 two-strokes was the frame design. They just couldn鈥檛 handle the power 鈥 it was like the swinging arm was made of rubber.

I had the Suzuki GT550K for years, but over 90mph it all got a bit 鈥渄odgy鈥 鈥 the Kawasaki鈥檚 were even more fierce, and the KH750鈥檚 reputation of 鈥淭he Widow Maker鈥 was well earned.

After that, with the arrival of the now notorious Kawasaki Z900, things started to get silly. You could stick it in third, open the throttle, and spin out the rear tire and do a wheelie at the same time 鈥 with the same frame technology - and this was over 35 years ago 鈥︹︹︹

The Suzuki RE5 however, was a bit more stable, and for all its lack of power (or perhaps because of it) handled slightly better.

Your experience on the Kwack 500 (136mph) was probably down to two factors 鈥 back then the speedos weren鈥檛 all that accurate, and you were going downhill 鈥 but 126mph downhill was more than possible at the time.

Thankfully, with the advent of the Z1000, things settled down a bit 鈥 never been the same since, until all this 鈥淗yabusa鈥 stuff started it all off again, but now, we have the frames that can handle it (even if the roads and riders can鈥檛).

To drag this kicking and screaming back to the humble TW, although the TW has a box section swinging arm, look at what鈥檚 it鈥檚 attached to 鈥 despite the side by side fixing points, it all ends in a single tube to the headstock. Now consider the lateral forces applied by that wide rear tire 鈥 it has to go somewhere. Maybe OK on the trail, but on tarmac 鈥︹︹︹︹︹.

The Japanese were starting to address some of the problems with frame design by the mid 80鈥檚, but they still had a way to go when they designed the TW 鈥︹︹︹︹..
 

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IronButt Rally (11,000 miles in 11 days), which also happens to be going on right this minute.
Noticed that, watched a vid of them leaving the parking lot. Had to check out a guy on XLfourm on his sporty :)
 

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Yeah I seen that, I wish they would show who each is so I can follow the sporty :). I read somewhere that they even change the numbers every day :(
 

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Sorry guys. My mistake :(.
I'm only 57 so I must be a lot younger than you guys. Lol just kidding .

Thank you for setting my straight .
 

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If that is true....that they change the rider Spotwalla numbers each day...then THAT would explain why # 161 seems to be all over the place, back and forth.

Bummer.:(

Back in "my" day.....no one was using the Spot Tracker systems. Today, they said if you DO agree to use the Spot Tracker....you will be ahead in points. But if you do NOT agree to use the Spot Tracker system, it is almost impossible for a rider to win, because their points scoring is different. That is NOT fair. I do NOT want the officials back at the hotel keeping an eye on my speed....because some idiot like Bob Higdon would blow a vein if he saw the speeds I ride, and he would raise a fuss over it.


Here's your symbol..


This seems fitting for you Mike...




The Flash!!! Faster than a speeding.... O wait, that's another guy. :p
 

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Just read on the sporty forum he got delayed 3 hours repairing his rear brakes. The rally theme is 50 state parks in 25 states. Hes a little disappointed cause hes only done about 2500 miles in 3 days.
 

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Thanks for the info Purple. I enjoyed reading the ads you posted. Back in the day, I had talked one of my friends, a new motorcycle rider into buying one of the new Kawasaki's. He got the 500cc little one. He was a little afraid of it though at first so I ended up riding us around on it sometimes. We were on a road trip coming back down through California north of San Francisco, now it may have been slightly downhill and with 2 riders, with some effort and several miles to loosen up the engine, we actually reached 136 MPH. I remember that trip well. I knew however that if we hit even a tiny tiny bad patch in the road or even hit a pebble, it was all over!! I don't ride like that any more, like TWilight does, probably every time he takes out his bikes!!! :eek: It was impressive that with 2 people, one of them being larger than large, that it could hit that speed, don't you think?
I've had my Ninja 500 up to that speed. The little Ninja is gone now... But its spirit will live on in my heart for the rest of my life :)
 
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