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So, I went down to transfer the title on my TW... My brother in Oregon bought the bike and gave it to me as a gift. What this used to mean was I would not have to pay tax on a vehicle that was gifted to me... Turns out this law has changed and no longer applies to out of state title transfers in Washington. So I had to pay tax, but here is the more important news. I had to buy not only an on-road license, but off-road as well, and that is when I found out that Oregon, Washington and Idaho no longer have reciprocal agreements!! Yup, if you are from Oregon and have an ORV sticker, that is no longer valid in Washington and vice-versa, same with Idaho. You want to ride off road in another state, you will need to buy a license for that state! Cost me $420 (yes, four hundred twenty) to pay tax, title transfer, road plates and off road decals.

Personally, I am writing my state officials to complain about the reciprocal issue. I mean I now need buy three different set's of licenses just to ride the trails in the PNW, and that is just ridiculous!
 

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On road vehicles you pay for the vehicle by registration fees for that state and can go across the country...

But unfortunately, recreation fees (which I believe is the off road fee is) are for use at the location. Luckily its not separate fees for state and federal lands.
I can get a fishing or hunting license, but how come there's an out of state license fee if I want to go elsewhere... :p
 

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Hey Fred, I just checked Idaho and Utah non-resident atv licensing. Idaho still good to go. Utah still good to go but only through 2019. After 2019 Utah will no longer recognize any states atv licenses. You will have to buy a non-resident permit. I was worried I would have to leave my 4 Wheeler at home for the Moab trip but good to go for this year only. A lot of folks who flock to Utah from out of state to ride the Paiute atv trail system are going to be upset.
 

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Fred, I feel your pain. I never dual registered my TW because of WA state's horrible track record of stealing the NOVA (non-highway off-road vehicle activities) funds which is where your Off-Road registration funds partially go to fund building and maintenance of trails and the sport and activities. For those not in WA, our state uses a off-road registration system for our ORV tags, similar to the street plate registration. It isn't as simple as purchasing a sticker over-the-counter like in OR or ID. I prefer to purchase those states' stickers when I go to ride there, as they are more likely to get the funds back into the sport. Luckily in WA, there are very few places you actually NEED to pay-to-play, as the street plate covers you in most areas and trails. I fill the gap with the state Discovery Pass, which I'm likely to buy anyway for state parks and campgrounds. My choice, and to each their own.
 

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Like Utah, this year the Idaho legislature passed a bill requiring out of state riders to purchase an OHV sticker IF RIDING ON THE TRAILS. No OHV sticker is required to ride a street legal bike on logging roads unless it is changed to a trail. Dirt bikes, ATV's & UTV's also require an OHV sticker (and OHV Plate if Idaho resident).

This undoubtedly will change the reciprocity with all the states. We ride in Oregon a lot so I'm sure I'll have to buy an Oregon OHV equivalent.

Starting next January, Utah's sticker is gonna be $30. In Idaho, out of staters requiring an OHV sticker will have to pay the $12 fee we in Idaho have to pay. Tourism is getting to be expensive.
 

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California is $52 now for dirt bikes and ATVs, dual sports road registrated are ok. Seems like the states are looking for as many ways to get you to part with your money esp if it is offroad - ecologists would rather keep you out of the woods and they are well represented in the Gobment.
 

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from Oregon's webpage...

An ATV/OHV operating permit that is issued in another state shall be honored in the State of Oregon if the issuing state also honors an Oregon ATV operating permit.
Regardless of the class of ATV, an operator must have a resident state ATV/OHV operating permit or a State of Oregon ATV operating permit to operate the ATV on public lands in Oregon. An Oregon ATV Operating Permit may be issued to any class ATV owned by a resident of another state.

As of October 2017, Oregon honors permits from the following states:
Arizona
California Effective February 22, 2017 Non-California residents must comply with the California Air Resources Board Red Sticker riding season requirements. For more information, click here.
Additionally, here is a link to the bulletin and the site listing the riding schedule.
Idaho Effective January 1, 2020, out-of-state residents must obtain a "nonresident OHV user certificate".
Indiana
Missouri
Nevada
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Utah
Vermont
Washington

These states currently have an OHV registration program that can issue a plate or decal (or both) that serves as their ATV permit to operate on or off-road. This plate may or may not make the OHV street legal to be operated on public roads and highways. Oregon recognizes other states' OHV plates or ATV permits in lieu of the Oregon ATV permit when operating off-road.
 

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According to the Montana hunting regulations they want $27.00 for any out of state OHV. Excepting North Dakota and Idaho.
 

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Question: Will Idaho this summer consider my street legal fully licensed and insured dual purpose motorcycle an "ATV" and thus require any additional permits, fees, stickers, etc like Oregon?
 

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Question: Will Idaho this summer consider my street legal fully licensed and insured dual purpose motorcycle an "ATV" and thus require any additional permits, fees, stickers, etc like Oregon?
Effect 1 July 2019, all non-residents will be required to purchase an Idaho OHV sticker if riding off-road on trails. The cost for non-residents is the same as it is for residents, $12.50. Utah's non-resident OHV requirement becomes effective on 1 January 2020. Utah's cost will be $30. At $30 dollars per vehicle, my travels to Utah in the future may be less. The cost depending on how many motorcycle's I would bring could be between $60-$90. This may be our last year of riding in Utah. I'm not sure I want to pay this for a weeks worth of riding and could end any future TW gatherings in Utah for the Admirals. Same goes for anyone who wants to ride in any state outside of their own if reciprocity is no longer valid. For us, Oregon would be the exception since we are so close and ride their a lot. We'll choke down the Oregon OHV cost because our riding time there is way more than 1 week(ish) like it is in Utah.
 

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Here in Washington they take your money and still don’t let you ride.
Last year I purchased a brand new Polaris Ranger 1000XP. I paid to have all the turn signals, mirrors, etc installed so it would pass inspection for street use. Then I paid $50.00 for an inspection to certify it as ‘road worthy’. Then the state charged me for an ‘off road’ license, and then again for an ‘on road’ license. Both separate. I’m into this thing for almost $20 grand now.
In October I took it hunting and while parking my truck in the National Forest the game warden stopped and told me that it is illegal to ride any roads in the Okanogan Wenatchee National Forest. Five minutes later a Forest Service cop stopped by and told me the same thing, only with the threat of a ticket if I unloaded it from the trailer. After doing some research I've found you have to check with the city, county, state, and or federal government to see the list of roads or trails that each jurisdiction covers. Most of the dirt Forest Service roads in Washington are closed to OHV’s even if they are licensed as street legal. I attached a photo from Chelan county’s website of the county owned roads they allow OHV’s to use. If you look closely most of them don’t even connect with each other causing you to push you ATV down the street to where they are once again legal.
Just make sure you don’t forget your Discover Pass or your Washington State Dept of Wildlife Access Pass, which is also required for any motorized vehicle going to any park of forested area.
Anyone interested in a one year old Polaris Ranger?
 

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Effect 1 July 2019, all non-residents will be required to purchase an Idaho OHV sticker if riding off-road on trails. The cost for non-residents is the same as it is for residents, $12.50. Utah's non-resident OHV requirement becomes effective on 1 January 2020. Utah's cost will be $30. At $30 dollars per vehicle, my travels to Utah in the future may be less. The cost depending on how many motorcycle's I would bring could be between $60-$90. This may be our last year of riding in Utah. I'm not sure I want to pay this for a weeks worth of riding and could end any future TW gatherings in Utah for the Admirals. Same goes for anyone who wants to ride in any state outside of their own if reciprocity is no longer valid. For us, Oregon would be the exception since we are so close and ride their a lot. We'll choke down the Oregon OHV cost because our riding time there is way more than 1 week(ish) like it is in Utah.
The question is... when or where do you NEED an OHV sticker vs. just a license plate?

Washington state: a street plated dual-sport motorcycle is good in most places on or off-road, including roads and trails in national forests and federal lands, with just a street plate. Our OHV "sticker" is traditionally for a non-plated dirt bike. We don't sell a non-resident OHV "sticker". The only places that you would need to supplement your street plate are state owned DNR lands and ORV Parks. This supplementation can be accomplished by purchasing a Washington State Discover Pass (https://discoverpass.wa.gov) for $11.50/day or $35/year, resident or not.

I understand Oregon and Utah to be the same way, correct me if I am mistaken,. On our TW Father's Day gathering in Oregon last year, we needed to get Oregon's 2-year OHV sticker because we were riding inside of a state OHV area. In Utah, again, on our gatherings we've never needed a OHV sticker because almost all of our riding has been done on federal land. If you go to a state OHV area, then yes, you will need their sticker. Idaho seems to simply require the OHV sticker for riding trails on any public lands. For $12.50/year, I'm okay with that.
 

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Someone needs to compile a booklet. I’ve found when you call the the different agency’s or talk to the enforcement personal (cops), some of them are completely unaware of the rules. Unfortunately some folks will be glad to write you a ticket whether you are violating a law or not. Most likely you will be violating something or other and not know it. Too much confusion, Too many differing jurisdictions. Too many rules. Too many fee’s.
 

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The question is... when or where do you NEED an OHV sticker vs. just a license plate?

Washington state: a street plated dual-sport motorcycle is good in most places on or off-road, including roads and trails in national forests and federal lands, with just a street plate. Our OHV "sticker" is traditionally for a non-plated dirt bike. We don't sell a non-resident OHV "sticker". The only places that you would need to supplement your street plate are state owned DNR lands and ORV Parks. This supplementation can be accomplished by purchasing a Washington State Discover Pass (https://discoverpass.wa.gov) for $11.50/day or $35/year, resident or not.

I understand Oregon and Utah to be the same way, correct me if I am mistaken,. On our TW Father's Day gathering in Oregon last year, we needed to get Oregon's 2-year OHV sticker because we were riding inside of a state OHV area. In Utah, again, on our gatherings we've never needed a OHV sticker because almost all of our riding has been done on federal land. If you go to a state OHV area, then yes, you will need their sticker. Idaho seems to simply require the OHV sticker for riding trails on any public lands. For $12.50/year, I'm okay with that.
Idaho has always been a little different even with motorcycles with street plates. Speaking of M/C's, UTV's, ATV's etc, you have to get an OHV sticker if riding a trail. Because of the law change this will also include not residents.

If we have a house warming TW200 gathering in June for exampe (hint, hint), the old rule will still apply and if Idaho has/had reciprocity with another state then the non-resident would not have to get an Idaho OHV sticker if they have one from their home state. If you don't have an OHV sticker from Washington State then you would have to get an Idaho OHV sticker. After 1 July it won't matter and everyone will have to get one.
 

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Ever notice these new User Fees tend to be in Sanctuary City permissive states? Guess they need more money from the law abiding to shelter those foreigners who break our laws.
California should follow suite soon, especially if the new "If you want them, you can have them" policy of bussing illegals to outside Nancy Pilose's walled compound is implemented.:p
I better get ready to bend over.
 

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California should follow suite soon, especially if the new "If you want them, you can have them" policy of bussing illegals to outside Nancy Pilose's walled compound is implemented.
Send a bus load to Gavin Newsom's neighborhood too. Hint: Its not the Governor's Mansion. Its in Fair Oaks. Just 15 miles from Sacramento. (He could have walked to work but now he drives -- the planet be damned!) The new 12.000 square foot house, on 8.2 acre lot, has been sited as being more "kid friendly" with such amenities as a tennis court, wine cellar, hot tub, pool, and separate guest quarters -- perfect for an illegal family to take refuge. Anybody want to bet the only illegals that sees the inside of those quarters will be cleaning it?
 

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Ever notice these new User Fees tend to be in Sanctuary City permissive states? Guess they need more money from the law abiding to shelter those foreigners who break our laws.
California should follow suite soon, especially if the new "If you want them, you can have them" policy of bussing illegals to outside Nancy Pilose's walled compound is implemented.:p
I better get ready to bend over.
Oh bullshit and stop trying to make everything about your fucking politics! Christ I am so sick of it. Idaho is implementing a new policy, and they are about as sanctuary friendly as you are, so what's your answer to that... Yeah, that's what I thought, more bullshit.
 

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Gastone….I am a retired Transportation Systems Manager for the Forest Service who worked on both the Mt Baker Snoqualmie and the Wenatchee Okanogan National Forests...…. and open Forest Development Roads are open to vehicles that are operated by a licensed driver/rider and licensed for highway use by the State ....without getting too far in the weeds....your plated Polaris has the same rights as your plated TW......and for that matter your pickup …….see Larry's post #12....

Since you mentioned hunting.....I am going to guess that you may have been in a Green Dot Area where all the roads are closed to motorized use except those identified with Green Dot markers....there should have been a sign and a map to that effect at the road entrance....that is the only place I can think of that a Warden would issue a ticket for vehicle use on a Forest Service Road.
 

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Does Gavin commute on a TW ?
If he did I might consider voting for him but no, he travels to work in a small caravan of Chevy Suburbans

Oh bullshit and stop trying to make everything about your fucking politics! Christ I am so sick of it. Idaho is implementing a new policy, and they are about as sanctuary friendly as you are, so what's your answer to that... Yeah, that's what I thought, more bullshit.
Lighten up dude! People are going to think you are related to QWERTY.
 
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