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Gents,
We're camping near Montrose CO and, in that town, they have a store called "Murdocks". It's one of those kinds of stores that's a
1. Feed store
2. Hardware store
3. Pet store
4. Farm store
5. Automotive component store
6. Clothing store
7. GUN STORE

And a whole lot more. But, while in the GUN DEPARTMENT looking at and drooling all over what I wanted, I saw a very small etrex unit that was about the size of a larger wrist watch. But, it wasn't a watch style. This thing was small. Maybe too small for these old eyes to try and concentrate on or even glance at while on a ride. So, with all that being said, what's a small, semi-compact type unit that will say, bolt/clip/ram mount onto the bars, cross-bar for the handle bars etc. ? I'm not very schooled in all this stuff so, answers need to be simple.
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A common solution these days is to run a GPS mapping, routing & tracking app on a cell phone. Larger screen sizes can depict more of the big picture.
 

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Gents,
....what's a small, semi-compact type unit that will say, bolt/clip/ram mount onto the bars, cross-bar for the handle bars etc. ? .....
Etrex 22x.

Bear in mind that with that small of a screen you have to stop to read it. Something like the Oregon or Montana will allow reading while moving, at 4 times the cost. In the Rocky Mountain West I can't depend on a cell phone so the Montana has been my navigation device for nearly 10 years now.
 

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I have Garmin GPSMAP 64S augmented with an OnX chip. The chip enables me to see all property boundaries and whether the land is public or private. I purchased it for hunting originally but I take it everywhere and use it for everything.
 

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I have both the older eTrex Vista and a Garmin 64s. The 64s is currently mounted on the bike. I have the topo maps downloaded and the little screen makes it hard to read while moving. I would suggest looking at the Montana or Oregon as was previously mentioned.
 

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Well Boys,
I most certainly appreciate all your help and advice. While I've been messing with computers for quite a while now, when it comes to things like those small Garmins and adding "chips" etc, it's WAAAAAAAY over my head. I can learn but, it takes someone willing to sit down and explain how that kind of system works. Then I can move forward. But, I will definitely look into the ones suggested. I can always learn how to use them after procuring one. Thanks again.
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There is a Montana thread on ADVRider: advrider.com/index.php?threads/garmin-montana.688775/page-798

It shouldn't take you over a year to read it all! :p I can't imagine not having the Montana and BaseCamp for all my rides, but I have spent hundreds of hours learning both over 10 years.
 

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x2 for onx. Have it on my phone and can track even if don't have reception. And" in reach" in case need emergency help
 

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OP's request for info on "good" and "small, semi-compact type" seems to be the deal killer. They seem to be conflicting requirements
All the "small, semi-compact units' I have experience with have just too small a screen to be useful or readable in real life conditions. My Oregon was worthless even with upgraded supplemental map packages for actually finding out where remote trails and roads end up. By time I zoomed out enough to see where roads go those very same roads fall off the displayed imagery.

All I can say is before buying anything take a real good look at, and experience a demonstration at a vendor. In the store see if you can find a known primitive road you are familiar with...see if it is adequately identified, see if any desired information drops off the screen as you zoom out trying to establish the big picture in your mind and on the screen. I usually have paper National Forest or BLM maps I rely on more. Depending on need a cheap 8" tablet running a GPS chip with pre-loaded topo info that then rests on a tank bag may be much more informative and helpful for back country exploration. The difference in legibility is astounding compared to a "small, semi-compact" unit .
 

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OP's request for info on "good" and "small, semi-compact type" seems to be the deal killer. They seem to be conflicting requirements
All the "small, semi-compact units' I have experience with have just too small a screen to be useful or readable in real life conditions. My Oregon was worthless even with upgraded supplemental map packages for actually finding out where remote trails and roads end up. By time I zoomed out enough to see where roads go those very same roads fall off the displayed imagery.

All I can say is before buying anything take a real good look at, and experience a demonstration at a vendor. In the store see if you can find a known primitive road you are familiar with...see if it is adequately identified, see if any desired information drops off the screen as you zoom out trying to establish the big picture in your mind and on the screen. I usually have paper National Forest or BLM maps I rely on more. Depending on need a cheap 8" tablet running a GPS chip with pre-loaded topo info that then rests on a tank bag may be much more informative and helpful for back country exploration. The difference in legibility is astounding compared to a "small, semi-compact" unit .
Hey Fred,
I don't disagree with you at all. I probably should have been a bit more clear on my description of maybe what I was looking for. So many folks are using phones for so much now days and, they're getting larger and larger. Well, I really don't want a movie screen for my needs. I most certainly realize that, the smaller the screen and unit for that matter, the less valuable it would be for the ability to perform to what it was purchased for. I'm pretty sure we'd all like a screen about the size of 15" lap top for our off road excursions but, for the obvious, that's not gonna happen and, we'll just have to do with whatever size of unit/screen that appeals to our liking and, that will at least try and hold up to the riggers of hot TW off roading. The off road racing world has some that are build kind-a like the old military version lap top, I forgot what that unit was. But, you could drop it, kick it, beat on it and more, and it still keep's on ticking, like a Timex. I think it was called the Panasonic Tough Book. But, those are also waaaaay too big for our needs.
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I have Garmin GPSMAP 64S augmented with an OnX chip. The chip enables me to see all property boundaries and whether the land is public or private. I purchased it for hunting originally but I take it everywhere and use it for everything.
Same one I use in conjunction with regular gps. The regular one has all the street maps and the 64 has all the updated topo maps. If memory is correct the E TRAX is for geocaching.
 

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The off road racing world has some that are build kind-a like the old military version lap top, I forgot what that unit was. But, you could drop it, kick it, beat on it and more, and it still keep's on ticking, like a Timex. I think it was called the Panasonic Tough Book. But, those are also waaaaay too big for our needs.
Scott
I don't know what you're talking about man, the Toughbook fits just fine if you get the right model.

 
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