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What I have observed here in Houston recently is women working yard crews, working the loaders and other positions at the dirt yards. I have also observed more women driving trucks in our area. That brings me to the question above. Where are all the guys working? Are the men working? Are current men such slackers they play video games while their wives support them? Are the men filling more technical roles leaving manual jobs to the ladies? What do you think?
 

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women are forced into working to support their kids. There are lots of jobs for truck drivers, companies are begging for drivers, thing is the applicants can't pass a drug screen. Is a shame that it takes two to house and feed a family anymore. I don't know how newlyweds get by to have a home, car, truck and feed themselves. Is a challenge for sure.
 

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I asked about this recently. A friend has a construction company. He said he loves having women operators and drivers. They treat the equipment very well. His repair bills have plummeted.

I do not mean this to be derogatory, as I believe women can do ANYTHING. But there is something to be said about a gentle touch. Proven by my friend's repair bills.
 

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women are forced into working to support their kids. There are lots of jobs for truck drivers, companies are begging for drivers, thing is the applicants can't pass a drug screen. Is a shame that it takes two to house and feed a family anymore. I don't know how newlyweds get by to have a home, car, truck and feed themselves. Is a challenge for sure.
It's been difficult but you make things work as best they can and be careful. Now I work from home and MudBug has been working on her stained glass and I think a brighter future is ahead.

To Answer Kens Question, There are alot of Ladies that feel they need to "prove themselves" (what they are trying to prove, my opinion is not important) or just as mentioned above, it's the only thing they can find. I know men, that are capable, that lay around all day doing nothing. In one persons case his Veteran parents pay for his 40 plus year old ass to lay around in his hovel and he just wishes he could move back home. WTF. no wonder a woman has to do a mans job when you have this
 

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I asked about this recently. A friend has a construction company. He said he loves having women operators and drivers. They treat the equipment very well. His repair bills have plummeted.

I do not mean this to be derogatory, as I believe women can do ANYTHING. But there is something to be said about a gentle touch. Proven by my friend's repair bills.
I have heard similar on that topic. I personally believe if you take care of the equipment you do less work. Therefore I am easy on the equipment because it is much easier than a shovel. I worked in the computer industry 33 years, the controlled environment was very nice. There was a very good mix of men and women which made a nice place to work. Many manual labor jobs are less stressful which is partly why I am at my current job. Perhaps everyone is figuring that out. I joke about that we have the most educated manual laborers around. College degrees, income tax consultants, book keepers, the list goes on. I speculate also that there are hard working women replacing many lazy useless guys.
 

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About 66% of the workforce are guys....women make about 81% of the median salary....in about 50% of families both work....in 20% of families only men work and …..in 7% of families only women work..

Areas where men dominate the workforce.....73% in Computers/It...…...76% in Agricultural….. 92% in Engineering.....93% in Construction....

In Bart's World none of the women work outside the home and all the men are Engineers ….and as in Lake Wobegon, all the children are above average..... :rolleyes:

Going back three generations to the current time...prior to that they were famers/ranchers and loggers/mill workers and the women worked in the home except during WWII...
 

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There are lots of new women working in congress now. Last night they were all wearing white while attending the State of the Union Address. Funny thing though was they all sat silent and wooden faced while hundreds, literally everyone else in the audience, cheered enthusiastically when an end to late term, or post delivery abortion was called for.
Did they fear for their job security, as it seems this would be a women's rights related issue. If they felt their future appointments to important committees and career advancement was predicated on 100% resistance then too bad. I feel women are important part of the government and private sector work forces and should feel confident to express up their own minds.
 

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Something I found with working a labor job after I retired from my career job is that many men can't stand taking orders from the boss or being criticized at work. I hired guys and told them what needed to be done and showed them how to do it and they went and did it their way any way. WTF? Saw the same crap on construction sites where guys that should know their jobs did it their own wrong way and got nasty with the GC when he called them on it. My fishing buddy is in charge of Hotel Operations and just finished and opened a new hotel here. All work done by union workforce laborers. He is pulling his hair out as we speak with such stupid stuff being wrong such as the Hot water faucets being on the cold water side and light switches installed up side down all over the hotel and plumbing leaks everywhere. One guest took a shower the first time the room was rented and flooded the 2 rooms under it because some knucklehead forgot to connect the shower drain. The GC is so incompetent he can't even ID the guy assigned to do that work and the one thing my buddy hears all day long and hates it every time is "That's not my job".

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Something I found with working a labor job after I retired from my career job is that many men can't stand taking orders from the boss or being criticized at work. I hired guys and told them what needed to be done and showed them how to do it and they went and did it their way any way. WTF? Saw the same crap on construction sites where guys that should know their jobs did it their own wrong way and got nasty with the GC when he called them on it. My fishing buddy is in charge of Hotel Operations and just finished and opened a new hotel here. All work done by union workforce laborers. He is pulling his hair out as we speak with such stupid stuff being wrong such as the Hot water faucets being on the cold water side and light switches installed up side down all over the hotel and plumbing leaks everywhere. One guest took a shower the first time the room was rented and flooded the 2 rooms under it because some knucklehead forgot to connect the shower drain. The GC is so incompetent he can't even ID the guy assigned to do that work and the one thing my buddy hears all day long and hates it every time is "That's not my job".

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That's really a sad example of today's work ethics. What happened to workmans pride and the peace of mind of doing a good days work?
 

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That's really a sad example of today's work ethics. What happened to workmans pride and the peace of mind of doing a good days work?
Kids are taught in school now days..... Nothing is their fault and everybody gets a trophy. When they grow up, This is what you get.

Liberal ideas - Good intentions with horrible results. (Applies to more than this) lol.
 

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I got a tee-ball trophy as a kid because my parents wanted to see me play. I don't display that trophy next to my degree, I'd say it's in a landfill. I don't think I'm Alex Rodriguez. I don't suppose you think you're Carlos Hathcock or John Rambo either. People like to pin things on you for themselves, I suppose, like assuming a sense of entitlement exists when it's really par for the course.

And thank you, very much, for your service. I couldn't say this stuff without your help.
 

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Regarding the topic at hand, trucking is the most popular male profession in the US, if I recall right. Kinda like WW2, the men ain't home.
 

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I got a tee-ball trophy as a kid because my parents wanted to see me play. I don't display that trophy next to my degree, I'd say it's in a landfill. I don't think I'm Alex Rodriguez. I don't suppose you think you're Carlos Hathcock or John Rambo either. People like to pin things on you for themselves, I suppose, like assuming a sense of entitlement exists when it's really par for the course.

And thank you, very much, for your service. I couldn't say this stuff without your help.
I am willing to bet that 50% of the guys you see out and about all decked out in Vietnam garb are actually steeling Valor. I don't own a Vietnam hat nor would I wear one. I do have a nice US Navy hat I wear and of course one from my chopper squadron but coming home during Vietnam was rather discouraging with the attitudes of those who never served being down right negative toward us. We could not travel commercially in uniform toward the end.

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I've been lucky to see some great young people ( Guys & Gals ) who are willing to bust their asses and learn something use full. Fact is one of the best diesel techs I ever knew was a pretty young lady who finished at the top of her class. She knew how to make those old Cat's sing.
 

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I do not consider this a gender thing as much as I do consider it an assignment thing. If a woman can do a particular job assignment then have at it and I do believe they try harder. The Fire Captain who assigns a 110 pound man or woman to go into a burning building and rescue people from the flames is an idiot but there sure could be some females very capable. My own personal experience has been seeing far too many guys and gals who just don't give a damn about doing their jobs to the best of their abilities. At the local KFC yesterday I had to wait because the gal taking orders was on her phone in a personal conversation that I had to listen to her half. She would have been packing her locker if I was her manager. Assign the correct individual to do the job and I am perfectly fine no matter what gender they have self assigned to themselves.

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