[PlacerLode]

my research is not showing positive results I find everything is just a little off from OEM specs and there is no consistency between parts. they "look" good but they don't fit so for a few bucks more I'll stick with genuine Yamaha parts

 

[Tallahasseetw]

You think some ZS parts could be used with a tiny bit of regular person machining?

 

[PlacerLode]

You think some ZS parts could be used with a tiny bit of regular person machining?

the tolerances vary from part to part it would be better to machine a whole new kit from scratch but OEM kicker kits still exist in corners of the TW world they just aren't "cheap"

 

[CS1983]

You think some ZS parts could be used with a tiny bit of regular person machining?

Just call Bay Area Yamaha in Oregon and save yourself the hassle by getting a real Yamaha parts kit.

(541) 756-1278

should be $250+shipping

 

[bigpie]

Hi,

I'm looking to add a kickstart to my 95 XT225, am I right in thinking all I need to get is:

ZS001007 & ZS001201 from china-parts.co.uk

and the idler gear, which I think might be label as neutral gear 21120-L067-0000 on china-parts.co.uk

Thanks

 

[upnovr]

Just call Bay Area Yamaha in Oregon and save yourself the hassle by getting a real Yamaha parts kit.

(541) 756-1278

should be $250+shipping

That's where I got my kit. Still sitting on the shelf in my garage. Maybe I'll get off my ass this winter and do the install. Bay Area was great to work with. Ship everything you need for the job. Just not sure if even they still put a kit together, but do give it a shot. Their strait up.

 

[GaryL]

Yamaha still makes the parts but just not the old kits. I had a dealer source all the parts individually and with a decent discount I paid $275 plus shipping. Bay Area seems like a better deal if they still put the full kits together. You just have remember to get the correct kick shaft boss for the TW or the XT225 which are very different but the kicker itself fits on either of the bosses. The TW boss that goes over the shaft is longer to allow clearance of the wider frame when the kick is used.

GaryL

 

[bigpie]

I'm in the UK. A Yamaha dealer can get the parts for £375, which is about $476, far too much. If the Zongshen parts fit it looks like it'll be around £65 once I've bought a clutch cover gasket and shaft seal, which is more reasonable. We get ripped off over here. I usually end up in OH with work each year but I didn't think to look at getting a kit while I was there last month.

 

[yancha]

has anyone shopped around recently for kickstarters? real yamaha parts from japan, chinese clones, or otherwise?
i called bay area yamaha in oregon [(541) 756-1278] today, and currently they are backordered. 2 month waiting list
current price is 270usd + 14usd shipping (they say real yamaha parts from japan).

any other suggestions?

 

[Tweaker]

Other members have ordered all the parts separately from boats.net. There is a recent thread somewhere. I think also a sticky with all the part numbers too.

Edit here is the thread.

http://tw200forum.com/forum/technic...l-new-all-oem-kick-starter-yes-%92s-true.html

has anyone shopped around recently for kickstarters? real yamaha parts from japan, chinese clones, or otherwise?
i called bay area yamaha in oregon [(541) 756-1278] today, and currently they are backordered. 2 month waiting list
current price is 270usd + 14usd shipping.

any other suggestions?

 

[PlacerLode]

has anyone shopped around recently for kickstarters? real yamaha parts from japan, chinese clones, or otherwise?
i called bay area yamaha in oregon [(541) 756-1278] today, and currently they are backordered. 2 month waiting list
current price is 270usd + 14usd shipping (they say real yamaha parts from japan).

any other suggestions?

I've tried many Zongshen kicker parts and find them to be of questionable quality the dimensions are not consistent and never identical to OEM Yamaha parts. The only ZS part I can use is the top half of the kick lever (ZS splines never match up IMO) I used the Yamaha "kick crank boss" which I have a bucket of left over from the old days when we bought XT225 kcker kits and converted them to TW200 kits. I had to drill out the spring hole for the detente ball but the upper lever fits the bottom "boss" perfectly. I do have questions re the quality of the steel in ZS parts because when drilling out the hole it feels like pot metal sort of greasy and gritty not buttery tough like good mild steel from Japan

The trick in ordering the parts is some of the 17 components are occasionally or often back ordered thus delaying your install. Also make sure you have the clutch nut lock washer and case gasket etc some of that is easy to forget. I have complete OEM Yami kits ready to mail but I get a little more than Bay Area who is barely breaking even even with tier one Gold Yami pricing. If you want a kit with everything ready to install now with no waiting and no forgetting parts or waiting on back orders I have a fair deal for forum members and I also acquired a stack of the EBC clutch holding tools I can add for cheap to make removing and tightening the clutch nut easy.

I'll be assembling and mailing out several kits Friday morning from Arizona and could easily add one to the list

 

[Tjmay]

I used the parts list contained in the thread mentioned above, got confirmation from the source that all parts were in stock and ordered all for right at $250.

Once received, i studied the instructions found in another thread, screwed up my courage and jumped right in.

It was easy and rewarding.

If you want a kickstarter and have the bucks, just do it!

 

[Ron-BC]

I used the parts list contained in the thread mentioned above, got confirmation from the source that all parts were in stock and ordered all for right at $250.

Once received, i studied the instructions found in another thread, screwed up my courage and jumped right in.

It was easy and rewarding.

If you want a kickstarter and have the bucks, just do it!

Thanks for that information. Is there any reason to believe it wont fit my 2017 TW?

Ron

 

[Tjmay]

Thanks for that information. Is there any reason to believe it wont fit my 2017 TW?

None!

The list was complete, the instructions were complete and the entire job was easy and far less intimidating than I first thought.

Just do it!

 

[Fzyace]

After riding it for 70,000 miles, the engine in my Zongshen ZS200GY-2 finally wore out. I recently replaced the original Zongshen engine with a 1992, Yamaha XT225 engine. I transferred the Zongshen kick starter into the Yamaha engine, and it fit perfectly. If you are interested, you can read about my engine swap at the following thread.

Project Phoenix: The YamaZong Rises from the Ashes - ChinaRiders Forums

I can put together a kick starter kit with Zongshen parts. As I understand it, your TW200 bikes need the following parts.

Kick Axle Assembly



Kick Crank Assembly



28T Idler Gear



Finally, you will also need a Kick Shaft Oil Seal.

If anyone is interested, I can obtain these parts from China, and sell you a kick starter kit for a very reasonable price. These Zongshen parts are manufactured to a Yamaha standard of quality. I believe the original Yamaha kits had a retail price of $163.99, and were marked up as high as $250. If enough people are interested, I believe I can sell you a complete kit for approximately half the retail price of the original Yamaha kit. Please let me know what you think.

Spud

So what happened to this idea? I can't find anywhere in the forum where these "kits" became available?

 

[Sthrnromr]

This whole thing looked like a lot of BS to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[PlacerLode]

there was huge demand for this offer but spuds never replied as far as I know

Forum member from Germany I believe Sebastion is his name offers some kind of aftermarket kicker kits on facecrook aka lifelog

I asked him if they were ZS but he would not answer directly he said he had them made for him from an Asian source but he admitted the splines are not compatible with the Yamaha splines which tells me it's Zongshen stuff

I found ZS parts to be hit and miss as far as dimensions etc so never seriously pursued using them to build kicker kits

If and when the parts become impossible to find I do have a USA based machine shop who could build high quality kicker parts but the price might be prohibitive

 

[Purple]

I thought you could buy a complete ZS for that money ?

Meanwhile – there’s plenty of scrap ’87’s out there for less than the sum of their parts ……

 

[Imaposer]

I used the parts list contained in the thread mentioned above, got confirmation from the source that all parts were in stock and ordered all for right at $250.

Once received, i studied the instructions found in another thread, screwed up my courage and jumped right in.

It was easy and rewarding.

If you want a kickstarter and have the bucks, just do it!

I just ordered the parts as well. Could you point me in the right direction for the thread where you mentioned finding the instructions?

 

[Johnny Bravo]

I too am interested in getting a kickstarter kit for a TW200 as well.