[Dryden-Tdub]

241 is the hands down best. The 244 is the hands down best. The Pirelli MT43 is the hands down best. The IRC GP-1 is the hands down best. The stocker SUCKS!!!!



Tom

 

[Dryden-Tdub]

This is my exact answer except off road I lowered the tire pressure to approximately 10-12 psi. I run this tire pressure on every tire I use front and back. For me, and this is subjective per personal feel and experience, 18 psi. for any tire I use is too high off road for my personal taste but I understand we'll all like something a bit different.

This fall I put the 241 and I don't have enough riding time on it yet, but there is something just off with it that I just can't pin point. It washed out on me a couple times where I hadn't had the same problem with the 244. With the 241 I was expecting this "amazing I can't believe it feeling" and to be honest it feels about the same as the 244. I did notice it seems the 241 self-cleans mud and snow better than the 244 but too early to tell.

Hey Admiral, what kind of surfaces did the 241 washout on? In the dirt, mud and gravel here in NY I was amazed at the traction I got out of my 241. Of course I ran the stock front tire for 5000 miles so a ski on the front may have been an improvement. The 241 is slower to lean into a corner on the pavement though.



Tom

 

[Dryden-Tdub]

241 Pushed out on some semi loose sandy/dirt combo soil (best way I can describe it) and I didn't expect it to do that. I have never had the same feeling at the same corner with the stock or 244 tire. Mud I ride thru is usually some puddles which I ride around the edge anyway and the 241 did fine there. On the gravel road it did fine also. I will say I was very comfortable with the 241 in deeper sand when I was riding in the Parma Play area. So comfortable that I really wasn't paying attention to the tires. So, kind of hard to explain that it did fine in medium to deep sand but washed out on just the semi-loose stuff. After this happened a couple times in the same turn, knowing what it was gonna do I was ready for it and didn't have any more issues. It still would wash out a bit, I just adapted to it.

I have the opposite feel than you do in turns with the 241. For the last year, I had been using a stock front tire with either the stock rear tire or the Ceros. With these combo's, I felt I had to lean harder for it to lean into a corner.

Then I put the 241 on and expected it to be difficult to lean just like the stock tire. However, just the opposite happened. It leaned so quickly it caught me off guard just a bit. It didn't matter which rear tire I was using. So, I kind of like the 241 on pavement.

This is why it's so hard to recommend tires to anyone. 10 people can have the same exact tire combo and all 10 of us would probably say something different.

I was trying to explain the feeling to TP awhile back and I kept using the word "slow" to turn into a sharp corner on the pavement. Maybe what I should say instead is that it takes more "input" to initiate the lean. It sticks like glue it's just a different feeling on pavement.



Tom

 

[Dryden-Tdub]

strange....i
put over 7000 miles on mine and it didn't ever seem to be out for me. maybe i'm the tire whisperer?

Voice of reason coming up, maybe........
Since it has only been in the last two years or so that complaints have arisen about the 244 maybe Shinko changed the tire compound?? Just a thought.



Tom